Dani3l1986 this is intended behaviour. Olivine doesn't have an oremap and is not visibile with the game's default density search; the mod simply follows this.

You can see this if you turn on debug mode; it will print everything density mode found, but will only count/show those that are in the list used by the default density.

Should be still visible with borehole since it didn't put those restrictions there

I was standing on top of a large Olivine deposit but the reading for density or stone didn't show any. The Bore mode did show it. Is this normal for Olivine or a bug ?

Dyrian it follows the same logic as base game - halite shows on density

Does halite show up normally in the first mode or do you have to look for it in the stone mode?

New version added a counter divider for the total blocks counter. 

I guess its just a weird coal spawn then, we hadnt gotten any black coal readings at this point after quite a lot of prospecting so I was getting suspicious that something weird was going on. But I have now actually found some areas with readings for it, so everything seem to work fine.

Brumes low amount by the looks, yeah

KnewOne I don't use Discord, so I don't think that would be very usefull. We're not running interesting ore gen, or any mods that would affect ores AFAIK, Only Terra Pretty that might do something to world gen.

Here is what I get with uplift and debug mode turned on:

Based on that it just looks like there is so little bitumous coal here that it doesn't normally get displayed?

Here is a list of the mods we are running: 

Brumes can you contact me in the discord channel for the mod ? I'll need some more details like any mods that alter oregen/add more rock types. Are you using interesting ore gen by any chance ? Does this happen only to bitumous coal ? What does debug mode write ? What if you turn on reading uplift ?

U: it does see it. Do you use IOG ?

I found some bitumous coal in a cave, but when I take a density reading there there is no black coal in the readout, nor anywhere around it.

With the way I understand this mod to work, I should only get a reading if that ore is actually present,

but I don't understand this situation where it is not showing an ore in the readout that I know for certain is actually present, am I misunderstanding how this density readings with this mod work?

Or is there a possibility of false negatives, and if so, what causes them?

KnewOne I opened a PR for a translation on GitHub :)

I love how the mod's proximity search tells you the distance if no ore is found "No ore found in 5 block radius.". I wish vanilla would state that in the node search.

Also I think node search is on by default now and set to a 6 radius. I haven't change it in my world config at the start and it's set to 6 and turned on. I'm refering to the mod's discription.

vipasva while that is extremely weird, it is most likely not connected to the mod. The act of reloading fixed the disparity that was caused by something. I don't modify ores, i only read their contents

i am playing on 1.21.5, and a few of the ores i found had the stone texture insted of the ore, i was looking for brown coal and was mining stone when they started droping coal i turned off the mod and the stone returned to the brown coal texture

https://files.fm/u/8sqsmtbutk

gobstar can't really tell you anything that would satisfy you. That's exactly the intent behind how those scale words work. It's relative to the ore's abundance based on its generation's distribution. Bismith has more variance for radius, but more importantly it's 16 tries per chunk vs cassiterite's 7. You will on average have more bismuth discs but it will have the same average distribution. Well, with some caveats like bismuth being triangle and cass gaussian, but that's minor.

Hii. The current Scale is completely mismatched with the current Per mille format, which is driving me crazy.

KnewOne that was the issue! Thanks! Works like a charm again

ChiefKrogan do you mean borehole ? Since 1.2.5 borehole has a radius setting. It's probably defaulting as 8 for you since you've updated right away. Instead of showing the singular column i made it a cylinder to avoid making its spam too strongs and to encourage using other modes. You can change settings to radius 0

Top-down prospecting is broken since 2 updates ago. It used to work flawlessly and now I constatly get false positives. It's become redundant to even use it - for example I am currently looking for tin in an ultra hight casserite area and 5 times did borehole detect said ore, only for me to mine down to 20 and no Casserite. Did you change how it works somehow?

nSwift what do you mean "long distances" ? Which modes show and which do not ? Can you also check if using the vanilla density prospecting also shows quartz ? Do you mean that only node mode shows quartz ? Afaik, quartz doesn't show on vanilla density. The modes other than node are modified versions that use the same core logic. In vanilla, quartz is considered a rock with no ore map and no handbook page connected to it. Halite(salt), by the way, is a rock that has an ore map and a link, which is why it's visible in density, but not in node - because node only checks ores. Borehole should show the rock if that mode is enabled. Sulfur should be visible since it's a rock with ore map. 

https://wiki.vintagestory.at/Mining#Prospecting_(Systematic_Method)

• Additionally, some deposits are not detected by prospecting with this mode such as quartz, surface copper, surface tin, saltpeter, or halite lake beds ("Halite" readings from the propick are for halite salt domes).

KnewOne Hi. My ProPick stopped showing quartz and sulfur when searching long distances. What could be the problem, or is the mod not counting them as ore?

Sir_Pattrick can only suggest checking mod versions on both, trying to load the same world without other mods locally, sending full logs. This doesn't say anything other than the mod can't register a tool. Might be some other mod chaning propick class. Hard to say

I keep getting a critical error when I try to join the game my Wife is hosting locally.

System.Exception: Don't know how to instantiate item of class 'ItemBetterErProspectingPick' did you forget to register a mapping?
   at Vintagestory.Common.ClassRegistry.CreateItem(String itemClass) in VintagestoryLib\Common\ClassRegistry.cs:line 323
   at Vintagestory.Common.ItemTypeNet.ReadItemTypePacket(Packet_ItemType packet, IWorldAccessor world, ClassRegistry registry) in VintagestoryLib\Common\Network\ItemTypeNet.cs:line 21
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientSystemStartup.PopulateItems(List`1 items, Int32 listSize) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Startup.cs:line 639
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientSystemStartup.LoadItemTypes() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Startup.cs:line 440
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientSystemStartup.HandleServerAssets_Step1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Startup.cs:line 382
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.TyronThreadPool.<>c__DisplayClass13_0.<QueueTask>b__0(Object a) in VintagestoryApi\Common\TyronThreadPool.cs:line 131
   at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback.Execute()
   at System.Threading.ThreadPoolWorkQueue.Dispatch()
   at System.Threading.PortableThreadPool.WorkerThread.WorkerThreadStart()

oml THATS what caused my recent issues? so happy to see it resolved. i was having an aneurysm trying to figure out what was going on. good work!

Ryilo oh, my bad. The mod was accidentally removing ALL harmony patches instead of only mod's  :D Fixed in 1.3.5

KnewOne : This update broke everything for me. Had to try in a new instance, with a new world, with a minimal set of mods, and when this mod with version 1.3.4 is activated it breaks configlib (no more mod configs), breaks knapster, etc...

Reverting to 1.3.3 solves the problem.

NaTajnacku 1.3.4 has two new settings to handle reading texts. Pick your poison

NaTajnacku most likely caused by vanilla having non-linear distribution of those values. I do have a solution or two in mind

Good mod but almost every reading saying ultra high, is there way to tune percentile map down?

Neon10 huh ? If you refer to the modes from the original BetterProspecting, then they're gone and i'm not going to add modes that just directly tell you where to go to get the ore. If you want the most cheaty prospecting possible, then just install block overlay and xray them. This is an attempt to make vanilla's density mode better. The other modes like borehole are just nice additions from older mods and are toggle-able off.

please either revert the removal of the 6 new modes or add a config to bring them back cuz i just updated and i hate the new system

Agouti that wouldn't really take that much to implement. I don't even need to check other mods existing; metals have a tier level, so i can just add it to proximity. Nevertheless, right now i don't really see adding that as a gimmick. Also stronger tool doesn't make it more efficient for prospecting, not very lore-friendly :P

Idea: Perhaps have an option for increasing search radius in Proximity for higher tier tools? Perhaps gold/silver/electrum, with lower durability but more advanced searching? Could get really fancy if Expanded Matter is also installed, titanium and all that.

BootlegLatvian when using default vanilla prospecting, you don't have to tap 3 times, just once. You still take 3 tool dmg

E: but also use the configlib, it's good

What does OneShotDensity do in the config?

Heya, really like this mod! 

KnewOne Don't worry, I don't know why the Latin American version is called es-419 either. I guess it's some kind of standard.

NeoB my bad, i didn't know 419 was a legit file name

KnewOne No problem, although I see an issue with the files.
In the localization files, in this case, Latin American Spanish should be named “es-419” and “es-es” for Spain.

Promethion well, check that it actually has any modes enabled in the settings. it is indeed possible to disable all modes and use your propick as a pick. Honestly, didn't expect anyone to hit that scenario.

If your settings are enabling some modes and you don't see it, test in a new world with only my mod. If it works, it's a mod conflict, enable mods in halves until you figure out which mod causes the conflict

NeoB appreciated

getting a wierd issue where my prospecting pick has no mode select option and when I use it it simply makes the blocks drop rocks rather than actually prospecting, I'm not getting any errors or popups of any kind, so I have no idea why this is happening

When ever I do density search it shows no results in the chat but the other modes work does anyone know why?

Edit: I forgot to update the mod 

KnewOne Wow, that was fast!  Thank you!

Edit:  The new change is a huge improvement!  I ran /reprospect and the big copper fault vein I was testing on now shows a ~17 ppt density instead of "miniscule".  Similar for a hematite deposit I haven't started exploiting but I knew must be huge.  And I can now usefully hunt for a couple other minerals that were previously showing "miniscule" but now have an actual ppt readout.  Thanks again!

Arcanum3000 hmm, actually, no, you're right. it's a bit confusing wording on my part. I've reworked uplifting. It will have better debug text and should now be useful separately for modded generators and base ores.

KnewOne Ahh, I see, thanks for the explanation.

I do have both AlwaysAddTraceOres and AddToPoorOres enabled.  Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought I'd get a ppt readout with the new ore structures even if the percentile rating ("Poor", "High", etc.) is wrong or missing.

Arcanum3000 it's a chunk radius around the selected block. Chunk has 32 blocks, so it's a 32 block radius around the block broken. if it was made on a chunk-by-chunk basis, you'd need to prospect every chunk and it would get tedious very fast.

The issue linked is the issue with interesting ore gen specifically. Its generation uses a separate generator called tiltedAnywhereDiscGenerator. This is not, in fact, a disc generator in the slightest, so it won't even hook up to the disc generator calculator i am using, but then it would alsways show ultrahigh. The ore is found, but i only have it's amount, not its factor. Factor is a 0-1 number that is also a percentile of the ore blocks found relative to the distribution of its spawns. The TLDR fix of this issue is: either Ross adds support for his generators via a delegate, or you as the user enable trace upscaling + poor minimal level. Then you will see all ores that he changes generation as "Poor", but ppt will be corrrect- and you will need to use those metrics. In the screenshot, you can see "miniscule amounts of Native copper", so the propick found it, but couldn't categorize. You can check how the same prospecting will happen in vanilla; unfortunately the core issue is that Ross' propick code doesn't work very well atm.

Check 'compatibility' dropdown in the mod description.

Hi, I'm liking the mod (using it with Interesting Ore Gen), but I have a question and a bug report.

For the question, I think I'm a bit confused about how the new density mode works.  I thought it was a simple block density calculation for the chunk you're testing in, but me getting different results from different positions in the same chunk suggests otherwise.  Can you clarify what the new density mode is actually doing?  Is it still just a simple block density calculation, just with some radius centered on the tested block?

For the bug report, I've run into one of the deposits that don't show up in the density search.  I'm pasting the debug log below, and a screenshot of the (partially mined but still substantial) native copper deposit.  I think it might be one of the new fault vein deposits from IOG.  It seems large for a regular surface copper deposit.

Anyway, thanks for the mod!

Deposit

KnewOne Thanks for the explanation. The new update with the proper radius seems to be working fine.

The_Revisionist yeah the code for the promixity was taken almost as is from the proximity prospecting mod and when i was looking at it, i noticed the same thing from when i was using that mod myself. Kinda didn't bother changing since it was fine either way, but it might be worth to redo it into proper circular discovery to avoid these scenarios. It's like a 50/50 easier understanding vs if it works it works kind of deal. Most of these block scans are done with the game's generic WALK function which only does cuboid, so radius is not a sphere but a cuboid radius, so to speak, but the distance is calculated with a distanceTo, which uses euclidian distance.  The borehole now uses my cylinder approach. Kinda wanna do the sphere one after typing thi.

Is it normal that the proximity search mode sometimes can show a result distance that is greater than the set radius? E.g. if my set radius is 4, it can still say that the closest ore is 6 blocks away.
I think this is because it seems that the radius is counted so that dx<=setRadius, dy<=setRadius and dz<setRadius is still a valid distance to prospect at.

Example:
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My max radius is 4. The ore is at X, I prospect at P. dX = 4, dY = 4 (between P and X). The reading I get is "Closest ore is 6 blocks away".

It seems like the distance is either calculated as Manhattan distance but not counting the start and end points, i.e. distance = (dx-1) + (dy-1) = (4-1) + (4-1) = 6. Or the distance is the true distance rounded, i.e. distance = sqrt(dx^2 + dy^2) = sqrt(16 + 16) = 5.7 ≈ 6

I'm fine with it either way, I'd just like to double check if I found a bug or it's the intended behaviour.

Riscmon_ingk right now it's just cuboid with radius centered on player. Might be a good idea to change to chunk column actually

Is stone mode searching by blocks or chunks?

SpaceMoth Not sure what you mean, but it's probably seeing some ore but digging down straight and it's not in the block column ?. For the 25 limit, ntent is to keep it full world penetration from the start, so the 25 is not really the way to go. Radius is configurable, and it was intentionally not a square but a circle. The change towards radius is how it's used to determine but not pinpoint ( unless you set low values or 0 )

The_Revisionist yeah should alter description. About the radius, should get to 0 yeah

Spent the last couple hours trying to find resources using the borehole and was confused why it kept showing a resource but not locating it. 
I can understand the desire to balance. Maybe another option could be to make the cylinder to be 3 x 3, with a depth limit of say 25? So it can be used to determine where to dig but not so pinpoint.

I do agree about The Revisionist's comment to tweak the description as that is what threw me!

I think the cylinders work well, with the configurable radius it's really customisable. One small thing, the tool mode selection still says "vertical line based search" for borehole mode.

Also, I think it would be good to allow the borehole radius to be 0, i.e. reverting to a single vertical column, if somebody prevers that. Currently 1 is the smallest you can select in the mod settings menu (I haven't tested if it works with 0 by manually changing it in the settings file.)

I like the borehole cylinder idea, I'll play around with it a bit tomorrow to test it. Beforehand I'd increased the borehole durability cost to 10 to reduce the desire to spam it.

1.2.3 changed borehole to be a wide downward cylinder instead of single line. Intent is to reduce borehole spam over a supposed ore chunk and to not invalidate the node/proximity mode. Subject to change if feedback arrives

Guimoute you must be fun at parties

> No more false positive readings

Vanilla prospecting has no false positive reading. It shows probabilities. 

/reprospect doesn't work on unloaded chunks and causes loss of data. I'll think about a solution, but for now just don't run it  It won't update readings in unloaded chunks. Some edge cases might appear but that's the best i can come up with for now. Ideally you just never run this command

1.2.2 Should handle unloaded chunks. Be aware that it might spike RAM until the server unloads the chunks ( you can also just reload the server after running the command from the startup. The command should rarely be called.

Less hungry approach would be doing for select players - check /help reprospect

Note that since 1.1.12 density scaling is a bit off. Run /reprospect. You might see values that are ~ 1/2 of the previous ones. That is expected, but do make feedback.

I've decided to postpone the factor change. The PPT will however be scaled to 1/4th of the previous value to be appropriate. The reason being:

By making the radius search too small, players would need to sample like every other 16-32 blocks which is too tedious.

Making it too big would make the single-disc pockets be hidden on one side of balancing (cIrcumventable with the minimum of poor option, but still not ideal) or produce too many high and ultrahigh readings. Possible solution would be changing the percentile scale from current which starts with HIGH at 40 to something more linear.

I'll hold off keeping it too realistic unless feedback comes in about factor values being too high, which they probably are by a scale of 4x.

Awesome, quicker than expected. Yeah, we were running 2.2.13 HoD. I run the mod updater a couple times through the day and restart the server for folks when there's big enough stuff. Thanks for fixing it!

DigitalHare nvm i see the issue. Download new version

E: but also just update the HoD mod to >= 2.2.13

Hey, getting a disconnect and crash on my server with this mod and Hydrate or Diedrate's interactions. Not sure which is at fault, but I turned this one off and was able to prospect again without crashing.

16.9.2025 19:13:13 [Server Notification] Client 6 disconnected: An action you (or your client) did caused an unhandled exception
16.9.2025 19:13:13 [Server Notification] UDP: client disconnected DigitalHare
16.9.2025 19:13:13 [Server Event] Player DigitalHare got removed. Reason: Threw an exception at the server
16.9.2025 19:13:13 [Server Error] Exception: Could not load type 'HydrateOrDiedrate.Aquifer.ModData.AquiferData' from assembly 'HydrateOrDiedrate, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'.
at BetterErProspecting.Item.ItemBetterErProspectingPick.hydrateOrDiedrate(ICoreServerAPI sapi, PropickReading readings, BlockPos pos, List`1 delayedMessages)
at BetterErProspecting.Item.ItemBetterErProspectingPick.addMiscReadings(ICoreServerAPI sapi, IServerPlayer serverPlayer, PropickReading readings, BlockPos pos, List`1 delayedMessages) in C:\Users\Ilya\source\repos\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\Item\ProspectingManager.cs:line 163
at BetterErProspecting.Item.ItemBetterErProspectingPick.ProbeBlockDensityMode(IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer byPlayer, ItemSlot itemslot, BlockSelection blockSel, Int32& damage) in C:\Users\Ilya\source\repos\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\Item\ItemBetterErProspectingPick.cs:line 218
at BetterErProspecting.Item.ItemBetterErProspectingPick.OnBlockBrokenWith(IWorldAccessor world, Entity byEntity, ItemSlot itemslot, BlockSelection blockSel, Single dropQuantityMultiplier) in C:\Users\Ilya\source\repos\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\BetterErProspecting\Item\ItemBetterErProspectingPick.cs:line 110
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.TryModifyBlockInWorld(ServerPlayer player, Packet_ClientBlockPlaceOrBreak cmd) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 580
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.HandleBlockPlaceOrBreak(Packet_Client packet, ConnectedClient client) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 409
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.HandleClientPacket_mainthread(ReceivedClientPacket cpk) in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMainNetworking.cs:line 280
at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.ProcessMain() in VintagestoryLib\Server\ServerMain.cs:line 934
16.9.2025 19:13:13 [Server Event] Client 6 disconnected.
Error in TryFinishEatMealPostfix: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

0.9.0 backport is a godsend, thank you very much KnewOne

Dragonchampion check 0.9.0

Can you please make a 1.20 backported version?

berserkus well it shouldn't fail to load or break any logic. By the looks, jayu simply reads data manually, so he's not even accessing basegame's genproberesults, so i can't even hijack that.

The immersion answer is that you'll get fake data as well, but that's because it got moved there by a river

would something like Pan and Prospect work with this?

Interesting Ore Gen won't work with this for now beacuse it doesn't work with vanilla generator either. Ross will need to integrate with this

Until then i recommend using "above traces" mode if you're using IOG. If you want to see PPT, you would need to toggle upscaling to poor level too. PPT is still reliable though

FatherSarge i won't be adding support for other prospecting mods. The whole reason i made this was to reduce prospecting mod bloat. I don't mind adding more mods to this mode to accomodate different interests, so long as i doesn't clash with my design philosophy. The line from that mode is what inspired borehole. I made the specific decision to avoid allowing it to go sideways and that won't change. As for the area, which is basically the node mode with a different config value, i'd rather not touch that unless i want to.

For the tin: that is probably a bug, i'll investigate why it's not reading. Please, use the debug mode in the future to make this faster

It might sound a little overkill... but would it be possible to make this compatible with the various modes available in Absolute Prospecting? I believe the modes in there are additive so it may work out the box if you mod doesn't replace everything.

Thanks for taking a stab at the current state of density mode! And I can confirm it works with Better Prospecting just fine.

For anyone trying to use this with Interesting Ore Gen... it is going to miss ore (staring at a huge amount of tin with no blip in the reading). Hopefully Ross can make them work together now.

TotallyNotASmurf krill issue

Lielac yeah aquifers just work like that. They don't have any world blocks to them so they can't be counted.

Anyways, it works now, but it's a lot of reflection, so it might be unnoticeably slower. Should be somewhat better sometime soon when the dev does refactoring and makes it easier to work with

Insanely enough, I am getting some really bad readings with density search on my current world's vicinity. Its been 13 hours...and no copper vein in sight. 

Maeyanie oh same thing as vanilla yes. Kinda have to agree with how base game does this tbh

1. This mod helped me find my first halite
2. This mod isn't compatible with Hydrate or Diedrate (modded density mode doesn't report on aquifer strength)

Don't forget that those are ppt, not percentages.

That would be what "per-mille" means, yes. "%o" is just the closest I can get to the right symbol on a standard keyboard, and shouldn't be interpreted as me saying "per-cent o"... I'm not quite that dumb. 😉

But, I think I may not have been clear enough with that post... I mean that calling 89.66 per-mille "very poor" (especially while a significantly lower value is only "poor"), or calling 0.07 per-mille "ultra high" is kind of hilarious.

However, If you're using the vanilla descriptions combined with accurate per-mille values, then yeah, I'd consider that an expected interaction, not a bug in need of fixing.

Who knows, that might be mostly fine. Don't forget that those are ppt, not percentages. And the mod generates enormous structures spanning more than one chunk

After trying it out with Interesting Ore Gen, yeah, the per-mille appears correct, but the text description can be hilariously wrong.

It's not letting me conveniently post a screenshot, but I've seen things like "Very poor Native copper (89.66%o)", "Poor Native copper (64.55%o)" and "Ultra high Silver (0.07%o)"

TotallyNotASmurf i have not tested, but non-disc deposits will always have real PPT, but factor - the density of the node - will be same as if you didn't use the new mode. Unfortunately i can't really calculate factor without digging deeply in generators of other mods and to be honest, figuring it out in reverse would be very exhausting. I have added a simple interface that any mod can use to notify of the generation average irrespective of heatmaps and rock column in the mined block

This mod sounds really cool and doesn't sound as broken as Better Prospecting. Wonder how this would work with Interesting Ore Gen. 

For now the rarity (very poor-ultrahigh) might misalign with what you're used to with regards to ppt values, so try to focus on ppt when considering dig site. I have an idea to remedy this, but right now it'll do.

Rikaiu mod can be added or removed, the new density mode can be toggle on and off and it will be alright. The only disclaimer is that this density mode and vanilla's density mod output different values and i can't reprocess previous values, so for any readings done with the vanilla density you need to use the new density reading mode to get mod's results

TLDR vanilla readings are V1, this is V2. If you have V1 reading you need to do new density in the same spot to get V2 on your map. If you remove the mod, the reading will remain V2, if you redo reading with vanilla density mode you'll overwrite with V1

is this safe to add to a new save? can't wait to use this with interesting ore generation

I find the vanilla version of prospecting to be incredibly tedious, but respect that it's an important part of the spirit of the game. This mod sounds really intriguing. I'm excited to see how it changes the mining side of things. Thanks for making it! :)

FatherSarge i would need to test, but seeing how prospecttogether relies on what it's been sent, and i'm stepping in and sending manually, it should integrate without any additional code

Interesting! Will have to give it a try. Does it integrate with ProspectingTogether as well?