put soaked black bear pelt on wooden table

stood on floor (1 below it) and scraped the hide with a flint knife

got 3 large bear hides

After the latest crash I found myself mysteriously with raw hide trousers. I have no Idea where they came from. I guess this could be relevant

Hi, I've been getting the same error as Boyarde sporadically in 1.21.0. 

Running on 64 bit Linux (Fedora Linux 42 (Workstation Edition)) [Kernel 6.16.4.200] with 32040 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.21.0 (Stable)
06/09/2025 22:28:13: Critical error occurred
Loaded Mods: chiseltools@1.15.1, manualscraping@1.3.0, moremolds@1.4.25, game@1.21.0, vsimgui@1.1.12, 
animalcages@4.0.1, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.3, betterruins@0.5.0, carryon@1.10.5, commonlib@2.6.1, composter@1.2.1, 
configlib@1.10.1, danatweaks@3.5.1, fromgoldencombs@1.9.1, smithingplus@1.7.0, unchisel@1.0.4, creative@1.21.0, survival@1.21.0, xlib@0.8.17, 
playercorpse@1.11.1, stonequarry@3.4.3, xinvtweaks@1.8.1, xskills@0.8.20
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.TextureSource..ctor(ClientMain game, Size2i atlasSize, Item item) 
in VintagestoryLib\Client\Render\Tesselation\ShapeTesselator.cs:line 1052   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ShapeTesselator.GetTextureSource(Item item, Boolean returnNullWhenMissing) 
in VintagestoryLib\Client\Render\Tesselation\ShapeTesselator.cs:line 832   
at Vintagestory.GameContent.ItemWearableAttachment.OnBeforeRender(ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack itemstack, EnumItemRenderTarget target, ItemRenderInfo& renderinfo) 
in VSSurvivalMod\Item\ItemWearableAttachment.cs:line 131   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.InventoryItemRenderer.RenderItemstackToGui(ItemSlot inSlot, Double posX, Double posY, Double posZ, Single size, Int32 color, Single dt, Boolean shading, 
Boolean origRotate, Boolean showStackSize) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Render\InventoryItemRenderer.cs:line 197   
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.RenderInteractiveElements(Single deltaTime) 
in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Inventory\GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.cs:line 428  
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.Render(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 737   
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnRenderGUI(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 396   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudHotbar.OnRenderGUI(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudHotbar.cs:line 590   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnRenderFrameGUI(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 309   
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1010   
at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenRunningGame.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenRunningGame.cs:line 250   
at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 760   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) 
in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 663   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) 
in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 113   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()   
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338   
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133   
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) 
in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95

I wasn't able to figure out exactly why it happens as it isn't very consistent. 

I've been using this mod for so long, I forgot it wasn't vanilla!

ty for all your great mods Salty and keeping them updated :)

Sianks I sent Salty an update with that change (in english, other people can add translations to the assets folder) for review and upload. no ETA on when that will be as the weekend is over, but I hope you'll enjoy it.

This mod would be CRAZY good if you would change descripiton in Guide book, cause it still says "scrape by placing in crafting grid with knife" for Soaked leather, not only that but adding explanation that Hides can be cut into smaller pieces cause new players or the ones who dont know about this mod and play on your sever will think their game bugged

Blacklands thanks for the headsup about the 1.21 bear pelts (although it sounds crazy to me that bears now give even more huge hides 😀). Support for any new hide sizes or variants is quite easy to add to the mod, but Salty and I both don't really mod for in development versions. But the second 1.21 is officially released (with finalized crafting recipe balance and internal item names) this mod will be updated to support them

Love the immersion!

Blacklands

Oh alright! Sorry if I sounded rude, wasn't my intentions by any means!

Thanks for reporting it works on 1.21! ^^

SaltyWater

I know, I just wanted to inform in case this isn't known yet. :)
The mod still works just fine with 1.21 already and is usable, but I know the full version isn't out yet, it wasn't meant as a demand to update the mod or anything!

Blacklands

This version is not for 1.21 right now!

I will be updating the mods once the release 1.21 is out! :p

Just as a heads-up, while this mod currently already works for v1.21, that version added some new bear pelts with attached heads that you get from killing bears (they turn into 2 huge hides when processed, but can also be used to craft the new bear pelt armor). These currently do not work with the scraping system by default (only work in the crafting grid).

I notice that it doesn't seem like there's any benefit for using better tools for scraping hides with this mod. Could that be added, so that using higher tiers of metal causes the scraping process to go faster?

It would also be nice if there were some additional ways to increase scraping speed, such as maybe using a powered axle as a work surface causing a speed boost, and/or causing moving the knife up and down as you're scraping to increase the speed as well, ideally with the boost increasing if you go up and down in a zig-zag pattern.

Tander

Cynag

Tested, it seems normal on my end, probably a mod incompatibility on your end guys :p

+1, hides being scrapped with one click, without animation (not like on illustration)

Hello, how are you? I love this mod, but when I skin the pelts, the change happens immediately, without the skinning animation as described in the video on this page. What could be the issue?

Little problem: placing the soaked hide on the floor seems to require the literal sneak key to be pressed, rather than whatever the mouse modifier is set to. I have my sneak and sprint keys reversed with mouse modifiers unlocked, so I shift-click to place things the same as usual, but shift is my sprint and ctrl is my sneak.

With this configuration, trying to place a scraped hide on the floor just doesn't do anything. When I lock mouse modifiers in options, sneak-clicking (which is ctrl-clicking, in my case) works to place them.

DarkThoughts

Yootah

Nope. No custom items/blocks! Everything stays vanilla.

Yootah

Yeah I loved that, but would've been even cooler with a stretching rack (I think Primitive Ancient Tools adds one, but IIRC without the detailed scrapping). TFC also had a loom for weaving yarn into cloth and a (crafting grid) spindle to make yarn out of wool (there were some other fibers too), but a spinning wheel to use in world would've been even better.

Terrafirmacraft has (or used to?) the precursor to our in-world crafting specifically with scraping hides. It worked so that you had to lie it down specifically on a sideways log, and then right click on hide sections with a knife, that would change the color square-by-sqyare. Not asking you to do it but... imagine!

Desolae Thanks! Ill see to add a config option for it! 

Love the ability to cut hides. Would be nice if the keybind should be shift-rightclick instead, for compatibility with the Dana Tweaks rightclick 'immersive crafting with 2 ingredients' option.

RedRockG No problem! I'm happy to help! ^^

Great, thanks for identifying the problem :D thank you very much.

RedRockG Probably another mod that have this interaction. Maybe DanaTweaks

When I use the scissors to cut the large leather, I turn it into leather pants?

Is there a way to prevent accidental crafting of "carpets" at my house? Let's say it's an item for strengthening blocks (vanilla)? I put the skins on the floor, but I don't want anyone to trim them...

Boyarde Hey Thanks for the feedback.
I tried to replicate it and for me it works just fine, I noticed that you're playing on 1.20. Could probably be something with this version. Once the stable version releases I will look into it.

I noticed that this mod seems to remove the pelt recipe, from oiled hides. Clicking on the blank space where it should be in the handbook gives this crash,

Game Version: v1.20.0-rc.1 (Unstable)
12/14/2024 10:52:01 AM: Critical error occurred

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiHandbookItemStackPage.PageCodeForStack(ItemStack stack) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiHandbookItemStackPage.cs:line 62
at Vintagestory.GameContent.CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.<>c__DisplayClass16_0.b__5(ItemStack cs) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.cs:line 539
at Vintagestory.API.Client.ItemstackTextComponent.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\Richtext\ItemstackTextComponent.cs:line 101
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementRichtext.OnMouseDownOnElement(ICoreClientAPI api, MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\GuiElementRichtext.cs:line 525
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent mouseArgs) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 469
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 564
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 390
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.UpdateMouseButtonState(EnumMouseButton button, Boolean down) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1920
at Vintagestory.Client.HotkeyManager.TriggerHotKey(KeyEvent keyEventargs, IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer player, Boolean allowCharacterControls, Boolean isGlobal, Boolean fallBack, Boolean keyup) in VintagestoryLib\Client\HotkeyManager.cs:line 431
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.Mouse_ButtonDown(MouseButtonEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\Input.cs:line 198
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.MouseButtonCallback(Window* window, MouseButton button, InputAction action, KeyModifiers mods)
--- End of stack trace from previous location ---
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.RethrowCallbackExceptionsIfNeeded()
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 329
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Removing the mod restored the pelt to the handbook and the crash did not occur again.

I can give a modlist, I just use a lot of mods and it would double the size of this comment if I did.

Really cool mod, just figured I'd give you a heads up as it seemed unintended behavior.

Dragnier It's done and out! I've used the drop rate you suggested too since it seems "realistic". Thanks for the cool idea! ^^

SaltyWater Actually, yes... cutting the hides raw before oiling or soaking does make much more sense! Even better!

Dragnier Hey! Saw the mod request! I think is a really nice addition for this mod manually cutting raw hides into smaller pieces with shears. I will be implementing it!

Wasn't sure where exactly to send you a message on here anywhere? On a similar vein to this mod, I had posted a mod request in the forum which someone else made a very basic version of for me but it doesn't do exactly what I'd like it to and they suggested you as someone who might be interested in doing the more involved version. Here's a forum link. Should you decide to make the in-world crafting version that actually crafts the amounts listed rather than just trimming the larger pelt to a smaller one and wasting the remainder, I would be most appreciative.

Afroman726 Hey man! Thanks! Glad you like em! ^^

SaltyWater Your mods are so cool thank you so much!!

Ouk Glad to hear it! Thank you! ^^

Thank you for the update. It's Immersion 2.0!

Ouk This is such a great Idea! I will be implementing that, thanks for the feedback!!!! ^^

Hi Salty, at first thank you for all your great immersive mods.
Would be possible to add separate time to each size of hides so the scraping small hide take less time then huge hide? 
Thank you, Ouk

:O
Thank you! This is a required mod!

propaneko Thank you kind sir!

Antar Done it! ^^

I love your mods dude, keep them coming!

I hope you add a way to easily disable the native grid recipe. It kind of defeats the point of the immersion when more optimal methods are still in. Path of least resistance and all.

Seconding the version filename format, it makes keeping track of things and diagnosing mismatches with clients much simpler.

Very cool! Please consider naming file with current version.

Cer_Nypes Thanks sir! I hope they adopt that too haha 
Getting rid of GUIs as much as possible it's what I work for! ^^

I actually expected this to be part of game 😄 I hope this will get adopted in "full version" of VS in more imersive way like blacksmithing.. that you will have to scrape the hide bit by bit... something like in TFC ☺️ Anyway thank you sir for making this mod! Getting rid of GUIs is the way i wanna play ! 😆

penguinplus123 Never played TerraFirmaCraft but it does sound interesting

ZriZe101 Thanks sir!

This is so perfect, thanks!

kinda reminds me of classic TerraFirmaCraft when you had to click on all 16 sections of the hide in order to be able to make leather, i love it

wojtek16 Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!
For the frame you can use ancient tools, it is compatible! Just put a soaked hide in the stretching frame and start scraping it!

I love this! would be cool if you could include also a stretch frame for the scraping process, could utilize rope or flax fiber to expand it! Looks great!

Thanks BananaBob

btw just so you know the mod description in the all mods page says "rides" instead of hides

Scrap your rides in a more immersive way.