Could you try to do some synergy with the Expanded Resources mod?
Thanks!

Brun may I suggest adding Shea fruits to trader inventories? Agriculture, Survival, and Commodities maybe, just because the trees are hot climate.

As a note for the current incompatibility issue for other players. Pine seems to also work in cooking for charred logs.

Just posted an update to ChandelierCraft - your candles now go on my chandeliers Brun!! <3

Brun I see! That's absolutely possible as I was curating a modlist for a server and was installing and uninstalling a bunch of mods. Of those that were left my guess would be the Floral Zones, as anythign else that actaully meddles in generation is RiverGen and a bunch of mods like Better Ruins or Better Traders. And I don't think Better Ruins would affect plant spawns, RiveGen doesn't seem plausible either, so that would be my  bet. Thank you very kindly for looking into it! I will just redo the world as I had only a few hours in it anyway and I like the worldgen in it. That should solve it.

ChiefKrogan
I've just tested this with and without the biomes mod installed thinking that could be a reason why but I cannot replicate what you're describing. The only three reasons I can think of why this would happen is some other mod that affects generation is caching my plants, you still have the mod installed/enabled, or you're exploring chunks of the world that have already been generated (possible if you're playing on a server).

Hey I removed this mod from my mods a whle ago, but the game still tries to generate it's blocks on the world I had it on. When I go to a new not yet generated land it puts white blocks with a question mark, that refer to plants from this mod - that I no longer have in my files. Is that supposed to happen? I'm geniuenly so confused.

bintoss
I'll keep that in mind as I continue work on this next update. It may take so long that a stable release will come before I'm done lol.

Azraile
I've had many people ask and compare this mod with the Oils! mod; at this point I should write about it at the top of the page 😂. I hadn't really thought about new features since I've been grinding to get the last major content/code update done. I did have plans for compatibility with the Oils! mod if/when it gets rewitten and updated, but if I finish the final big update before that happens I may add some functionality like that. Originally this mod started out as a very basic idea branching from a fossils mod I'm developing (if you can believe that) so I haven't considered much uses/functionality for the soaps/oils.

Any chance in adding some features like that of oils from the oils! from seeds to substances mod.. or compatability with it?

It lets you use seed oil instead of fat and in making soaps and dying/aging wood. 

I kinda like the idea of both but this is a WAY WAY better mood and having redundant soaps is kinda meh, just think you could do a better job with sented oils and stuff too anyway lol

A Culinary Artilery and Expanded Foods have -dev alpha releases available. These will be very unstable (API-wise, not crashy), but they should provide a decent starting point for compatibility work.

Two issues that players on my server have (somehow) run into:
-Liquid soap can be used in place of water to make soups, somehow
-Brewing tea gives "an absurd amount" of xskills cooking XP, something to the tune of roughly 10x what cooking a meal does

So excited for the soap-washing for buffs mechanic! Will be downloading as soon as that's available!

Looking forward to it!

MrFastZombie
Thanks!

RiverTheSheep
Currently there is no direct compatbility between this mod and Oils! I may however add compat when Oils is reworked and updated.

How does this interact with the Oils mod? 

those plant models look awesome

Brun

That's great to hear! Thanks for the quick fix :)

MechaMagus
I've released a new update file for v1.3.5. This version looks identical to the previous one but this time it actually fixes the compatibility errors. Make sure to download it again if you still have the old one!

MechaMagus
I've reached out to the mod author to help resolve this issue. For now you'll have to run version 1.3.4 and I cannot guarentee that shea trees will be spawning on that version.

Kosmu
I will look into adding it for version 1.4.0!

@Blight
The two mints may cause some overlap but they are grown in different ways and have different uses. I have decided not to add compatibilty as of now since it would be difficult to reach a middle ground between their different growing patterns and harvesting amounts.

ArsenikMilk
I've answered this question before on my discord page if I remember correctly. I'll do my best to add compatibilty for In Dappled Grove's. I'm sure the implementation would be simple enough.

Looking at the upcoming 1.4.0 update, are you looking to add compatability with the sawdust created from In Dappled Grove's overhaul of sawing mechanics? (You cannot use the crafting grid recipe, and instead must place the log/debarked log on a sawbuck, from which you get the 12 planks and 1 sawdust)

Will this conflict with Wildcraft plants? There's mint there, and probably other plants.

Would it be possible to be able to store all the lavender/chamomile/etc heads into the Food Shelves Ceiling Jars? since they provide a drying bonus (and it's probably nicer than having 30 shelves)

Hi hi. Love the mod! Though I just updated it and now it seems to be having a new incompatibility with the Biomes mod. Getting the following error.

1.10.2025 13:42:07 [Error] [biomes] An exception was thrown when trying to start the mod:
1.10.2025 13:42:07 [Error] [biomes] Exception: Cannot deserialize the current JSON object (e.g. {"name":"value"}) into type 'System.Collections.Generic.List1[System.String]' because the type requires a JSON array (e.g. [1,2,3]) to deserialize correctly.
To fix this error either change the JSON to a JSON array (e.g. [1,2,3]) or change the deserialized type so that it is a normal .NET type (e.g. not a primitive type like integer, not a collection type like an array or List<T>) that can be deserialized from a JSON object. JsonObjectAttribute can also be added to the type to force it to deserialize from a JSON object. Path 'FruitTreeBiomes.shea.biorealm', line 39, position 23. at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateObject(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateValueInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.PopulateDictionary(IDictionary dictionary, JsonReader reader, JsonDictionaryContract contract, JsonProperty containerProperty, String id) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateObject(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateValueInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.PopulateObject(Object newObject, JsonReader reader, JsonObjectContract contract, JsonProperty member, String id) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateObject(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.CreateValueInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, JsonContract contract, JsonProperty member, JsonContainerContract containerContract, JsonProperty containerMember, Object existingValue) at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.Deserialize(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, Boolean checkAdditionalContent) at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonSerializer.DeserializeInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType) at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.DeserializeObject(String value, Type type, JsonSerializerSettings settings) at Biomes.BiomesModSystem.StartServerSide_Patch0(BiomesModSystem this, ICoreServerAPI api) at Vintagestory.Common.ModLoader.TryRunModPhase(Mod mod, ModSystem system, ICoreAPI api, ModRunPhase phase) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModLoader.cs:line 679 1.10.2025 13:42:07 [Error] Failed to start system Biomes.BiomesModSystem

Definitely this mod as I went through troubleshooting removing mods and adding them back in and the issue re-occured right as I added this mod back in. Definitely have the 1.3.5 version of the mod installed.

That's fantastic to hear, thank you for all your work!

Kosmu
Currently soap bars are only used to make liquid soaps. I cant remember but I think there are some traders who buy/sell certain soap bars in the current version of this mod. I will most likely add a new "soap" trader in the next big content update so that more items from the mod can be purchased/sold without having the vanilla traders shops over crowded with soap lol. Another major use for soap bars is being added in the next/final content update which will add buffs to washing yourself with them while standing in water. These buffs will be minor increases to stats and vary based on the scent of soap bar used. They will last all day (24 in-game hours) to mimic cleaning yourself in real life.

Do traders buy soap bars? whats the current use? (apart from a pretty deco item)

Brun

Thanks very much for your response.  Seems like this is a vanilla fruitpress deal.  No worries, gives me the opportunity to farm more mint!  Thanks again for all your hard work!

Mulciber
Thank you for your kind words! As far as I'm aware you must press 16 or 32 items in a fruitpress in order to actually produce the output liquid. I tested this with vanilla fruits and my new flowers/herbs with the same results. I really wish you could press any amount of fruit/herb/flower, but unfortunately that doesn't seem possible as of right now. In the meantime the workaround that I've found is to store your harvested crops underground in cellars with vessels in order to preserve them longer. It may also take a few cycles of growing them to produce enough seeds for a bigger harvest to yield enough for pressing oils.

Thank you for your work on this mod.  It ups the coziness factor by orders of magnitude.

Just to make sure I'm not missing something, the new plant oils--you can't actually juice them until you have enough for 5 or 10l?  I had 8 mint leaves that I put in the press, it generated "Wet Mint Mash" and indicated it would produce 2.5l of mint oil, but when I put it in the press again, nothing happened.  It works just fine at 16 leaves/5l of oil, but since the leaves would rot or dry before I could grow another plant, I wanted to get the oil I could from my first mint plant's harvest.  Would it be possible to press oil from herbs/flowers below the 5l threshold so you can save them up more incrementally?

Thank you again!

OzzyMoo
I just tested this with vanilla rye and my mint crops. Growth was stunted in heat but when the crop was converted into a dead plant it only gave me back the mint seeds. Are you sure it wasn't just in a stunted state insead of being completely dead?

Not quite sure if it´s true but i have the feeling that any plant from the mod that has died out on any farmland is still growing?
I noticed that as my mint died out from heat and when i wanted to clean up it still dropped leaves.

Otherwise I´m in love with this mod as i love soap :3

Noice, I can finally use the 30 quintillion bear hides I have because John Vintage decided to make my base out of honey.

Sweet! Thanks for keeping this updated, Brun! Love your work!

TotallyNotASmurf
Thanks for pointing this out to me! I completely overlooked it in the bible of patch notes.

ElusiveEnigma
I've fixed the poultices healing in the newest update (v1.3.4). Thanks for the assist!

Brun

Any plans to make the scented poultices in line with the new vanilla healing mechanic? The mod version still heals instantly while all other sources of healing now do Heal over Time.

Tiberius3969 

Make sure you have the correct ratios. 2 wood ash to 1 water. It has to be exact. Once they match, it just turns into lye.

i feel stupid for asking this, but how do you mix the wood ash and water, all i can do is seal the barrel?and when i try to use the discord link i get stuck on an empty discord, with the Title Soap and lye.

About Lye, it seems you've forgotten to make the new bear hide usable for soaking with Lye lel. Lye still require old huge hides, and I don't think we can get that without going into modded animals anymore.

Samogitia
You know I've always questioned why fruit presses worked like that to begin with. I understand not being able to press unless you have a certain amount of material to start but having only two options of an exact amount to press seemed a bit limited and unrealistic.

very progressive mod! Congrats to autors! Keep going, keep going Bro!

Samogitia if it's worthy advice, i once had to reinstall my whole game because fruit-pressing behavior just wasn't working anymore. it was no mod's fault from what i could tell and reinstalling actually fixed it. could be worth a shot!

Brun 

Disabled all mods, deleted cache and still as long as i put more than 12 it always works. No idea why it happens to me. But everything works so its not realy an issue, and i guess its nice to have more leeway with amount i can squeeze :)

Samogitia
That's really strange because it works fine for me and I cannot replicate the issue. Maybe it's happening because of a different mod you have installed? Try disabling all of your mods except Soap and Lye: Bloom and Lather and create a new creative world to test the normal 16 or 32 flower heads.

Brun 

After it didnt work and i read description i went to my creative to test it. And it worked with 13 or 20 flowers, not just 16 or 32. Thats why i was confused.

Samogitia
Fruit presses need either 16 or 32 of a squeezeable material in order to produce a liquid. So in this case you would need 4 more chamomile flower heads to produce 5L of chamomile oil. Also make sure you're using chamomile flower heads and not the whole flower! The heads can be made with a knife in the crafting grid.

Putting 12 or less flowers into fruit press doesnt do anything (only tried with chamomile). Is this a bug or intended?

WizardyBusiness
They add new flowers and/or herbs as crops. Vanilla flowers are untouched

Do the flowers in this mod add new flowers, or replace existing vanilla flowers?

Highly agreed with Calbain, so tired of these ugly ass AI art. Just a little bit of effort for a great icon. Keep up the great work.

Calbain
Thanks! 😄

The new thumbnail is real pretty btw, love that tent

Valtiel91
A few questions:
1. What version of Vintage Story are you playing on?
2. What version of Soap and Lye: Bloom and Lather are you using?
3. Did you update to v1.3.2 from a previous version?
4. What type of lavender flowers are not rendering? The crops, flower blocks, or items? Was it placed in a flower pot or planter? Could you provide a picture to show the rendering issue? You can upload one to imgur online for free then copy and paste it here. 
5. What kind of poultice is it and how did it vanish? Did it happen after updating the mod?

something is happening, lavender flowers dont render and poultice vanish

Thank you for replying! I certainly understand and appreciate all the work you do with these mods of yours and look forward seeing your future work! <3 <3

Brun Thank you for the reply. I will say, Plumpkins does kinda work as it is now. I was able to see the replacement model in the handbook. Glad to hear about the current plans here ^.^ hope things go smoothly for all your plans, love the sound of a fossil mod.

MrApothic Akari_Enderwolf
I have recently shared my current plans on the discord mod page for Soap and Lye. As of right now I plan on patching up the bare bones version of this mod (formerly Just Soap and Lye) and will most likely update that to v1.21 first, then I will work on getting all my other mods, including this one, to v1.21! After that I will complete the content planned for v1.4.0 and finally begin working on my fossils mod again (Vintage Prehistory) which is unreleased 🦖🦕

I was also hoping for 1.21 All your mods look so cute, and I was wanting to use them on 1.21

I realize you just dropped a big update for the pack but I'm curious of if there is a time table for V21 or you gonna keep this mod in V20 while your working on your features?

Khaydar
Thanks for pointing this out! It will be changed in the next update.

Lavender ingame can survive to temperatures of 29C, despite being a plant adapted to heat and drought irl, growing just fine around the Mediterranean and North Africa. If anything temperatures close to flax makes more sense.

@Brun

Thank you for your detailed answer! My friends and I are looking forward to seeing your ideas come to life!😍

AnniPicto
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on the mod! There's a lot to unpack here so I'll tackle each question/suggestion in the same number order you have set up.

1. I have looked over the "Oils!" mod in the past and have decided to postpone any kind of compatibility as it's creator will be doing a full rework/rewrite of his system and ideas for the mod.
2. For taking a bath with soaps I have brainstormed my idea for the soap washing mechanic. All bars of soap will be usable by holding right click while standing and/or swimming in water. Regular lye soap bars will provide a "clean" buff that gives a small boost to general stats and lasts 24 hours (just like real life). Scented soaps will instead provide buffs for the same amount of time, but also specialize in each of those different stats. For example: Mint soap bars might give an increase to movement speed and lavender bars may greatly lower animal detection range. This way you'll have to decided what you'll be doing that day and wash up accordingly! Of course you'll only be able to use one soap buff at a time, but you'll also be able to refresh your current buff before it runs out. As for turning the water a different color while you wash.. that could get a bit tricky, but I do have someone working on code for spawning bubble particles when bars are dropped into water and when you wash yourself in water!
3. I guess I could reduce the merchants buying and selling lists. Originally I tried to add whatever I thought each trader might be interested in or would aquire while on their travels. Farmers do sell seeds but now that I think about it, it doesn't really make sense for a treasure merchant to sell them too lol.
4. Planting the decorative flower blocks in flower pots and planters has been on the list of things to do and I will try my best to get it done before the big v1.3.0 update!

Hello! I have a few questions.

1. Have you heard of the mod "Oils!"? It seems to me that you approached the same problem, but in different ways. Both your mod and the mod "oils" have very good ideas. Your mod has a very well thought out balance. I like that the dyed fabric needs to be soaked in a barrel for a while to clean, I like that if I do not have time to squeeze the flowers into oil, I drink tea. "Oils!" does not have this (and I think that some of the mechanics are too simple), but there are cute jars, there are oil lamps and oil candles in candlesticks. And there is also the ability to use food from the vanilla game. Perhaps there is a chance that someday you will team up or come up with an option for mod compatibility.
2. I also want to say that I am really looking forward to the ability to take a bath with scented soap (is it possible to temporarily color the water around the character? And bubbles, I need bubbles!! And for regeneration in a bubble bath to be faster).
3. Sometimes half of the items that merchants buy or sell are from this mod. Is it possible to limit the number of items in their buy/sell list? I found flower seeds from a treasure merchant. Maybe a farmer should sell them.
4. The decorative flower bush can't be planted in a flower pot.

P.s. Thanks for your work, the mod is very cute and helps us make our home more cozy.🤗

TrainDoc
I've thought about changing the name of this mod so many times lol. At this point I've added so much unique content that I would need more space for a larger title!😂

Okay but this mod should be "Soap, Lye and Dye" and the basic mod should be "Soap and Lye" right? 😋

Ozyzzyl
I'm glad you're enjoying it!😊

Thank you for this mod, I appreciate your hard work in making it.

runebakery
Thank you for sharing your admiration! I really enjoy hearing what people think about the mod!😄I have some really cool ideas planned for the rose bushes too. I don't want to spoil too much of what's to come but let's just say that roses are going to be really valuable and exotic with a unique way of aquiring/collecting all of the colors! Also you mentioning bottles has me thinking that I should create my own glass bottles for showing off and storing liquid soaps, oils, and teas! I'll probably add compatibility for A Culinary Artillery as well so those containers can be filled and traded with too!

Just dropping a note of appreciation! This mod is so charming and fun, and the system for making soap feels practically vanilla, it's just right. Making oils for the soaps is super cozy, and I love the plant and flower models, too. I am super excited to see the eventual rose bushes and bottles for selling and saving soap! 

pimblokto
I agree! I'm already in the works for making such a system!

It would be kind of fun if you could make it so we can get dirty and then use the soap to clean ourselves!

Calbain
I couldn't agree more! I have already begun working on getting them in flower pots and planters, however I seem to have a hard time "attaching" their models to them. I've done it before when attaching backpacks to player models, but this time I just can't get it to work! 😅

These would look lovely in some flower pots

Hydromancerx
I suppose that would be feasible, but I have no idea how common or rare those hybiscus bushes are so balancing the recipe would be quite a challenge. Wildcraft herbs are even more difficult to balance because they can be planted straight into the soil without tilling, fertilizing, or watering. This could be easily exploited by gathering many seeds and filling a large area with the herbs to harvest every few days. At that point it would be meaningless to add because most players wouldn't want to go through all of that and would most likely prefer planting my crops.

Brun

Oh i was hoping that you would make some conversion recipies. Such as FZ hybiscus + knife = X ammount of your hibuscus. Or X ammount of Wildcraft herbs = 1 of your herbs.That way growing your crops are still ideal but you can still use the other mods plants at a greater item cost. Also thanks for adding the biomes mod support! I am curious why lavender is in Australia and Oceania. As far as i know they are not native to those regions.

Hydromancerx
I have taken a look at all the mod compatibilities you've suggested. The Biomes mod is now supported and works with my new crops (coming in the next v1.2.2 update patch)! The Floral Zone's implementation of hibiscus is a normal flower and as such should have no interference/patching needed with my mod. Wildcraft: Herbs and Spices has a unique take on implementing chamomile, lavender, mint, etc. which allows them to be grown in the ground without needed to till soil, having them mature multiple times (without replanting seeds), and harvesting with very little yield. My herb crops grow in denser groups over a longer period of time, need care just as a normal crop, and yield much more for each harvest. This method works well with my vision of Soap and Lye, but unfortunatly means it cannot be patched with Wildcraft: Herbs and Spices. You can however still use both mods together and have similar herbs with different uses! For the case of the Oils! mod I plan on waiting for the author to make their next big rework update and I'll decide at that time whether or not to add compatibility. For right now, as with Floral Zones and Wildcraft, Oils! should work just fine alongside my mod. I do plan on adding similar items like Oils! does such as candles and potentially even lanterns, but unless Oils makes a new crafting system/mechanic for either of those items I wouldn't have much of a reason to patch for compatibility.

Hydromancerx
I'll take a look and see what I can do!

Awesome! Also please patch between Oils! mod and your mod. I know there are some overlap but I think both could exist and have synergy.

animatiV

Wild farming revival should work just fine as there are no items that conflict between it and my mod. I will however be working on an official 1.21-pre version of this mod very soon.

Hydromancerx

I can work on the patches as soon as I get home from work today. Thank you for pointing out these mods!

Since Wild Farming - Revival is updated to version 1.21, is it supported?

Will you be patching with other mods that use the same plants? Such as hibiscus from the Floral Zone mod or chamomile and lavender from the Wildcraft: Herbs and Spices mod?

Also please add support for the Biomes mod so they spawn in the world when using the mod. Note it blocks any plants not whitelisted for a particular region.

For example the same plants in the other mods have the following ...

Chamomile = Atlantic Palearctic, Central Palearctic, Eastern Palearctic

Hibiscus = Central Palearctic, Eastern Palearctic, Pacific Palearctic

Lavender = Atlantic Palearctic, Central Palearctic, Eastern Palearctic

no problem Brun glad i could be of some help. my server seriously enjoys the utility of this mod so im am more than glad to help out whenever i can.

CrazedVantaBlack
You bring up a good point here and I appreciate the feedback! The only issues I have with this solution are; that logs would have to be cooked twice in a campfire and only five log types can be used to create charred logs. I have already spoken with one of the devlopers for wildcraft trees and they agreed to make a custom patch for their next update that will fix the incompatibility. Given that I don't know when that update will take place and considering your wonderful idea I think the best temporary workaround would be making a new recipe for wood ash by placing charred logs into a crafting grid. I would have never even considered this as a fix without your suggestion so thank you for sharing your idea!

Hello Brun , i may have a workaround for the incompat with wildcraft trees. so the logs in wildcraft when they are cooked make a log known as charred wood. you could in theory just make it so if you then cook that charred wood block again, it would turn into wood ash. it would even simplify the cook tree because you would only need to code the cooking of one block to get said wood ash.....hope this helps for clarity this is the charred wood.json file in its entirety

Brun

oh, ok sorry than i missunderstood that. 

can you add compatibility for "Make Tea" so that the Teas you add can be brewed with the teapot of that mod ?

Jhoulana
So I just installed and loaded up the "Wild Farming Revival" mod and I'm not seeing any of the herbs or teas as you're describing. Is it possible that another mod you have is adding those plants and liquids? The flower crops I'm planning on adding in the coming updates are going to be separate from the vanilla flowers and I will no longer use wild daisy, heather, and catmint flowers.

Brun

i woud love if you add compabillity with "Wild Farming Revival" and "MakeTea"  later. ^^

but for the sake of simplicity and individualism I would prefer separate mods.

Jhoulana
Thanks for sharing your feedback. To be fair, I have been a little out of touch with the game recently since all of my time is spent making mods rather than playing. I figured there may be other mods that do similar or the same things as I want. Would you be opposed to me adding compatibility for "Wild Farming Revival" instead? In the case you would have both mods installed I could just disable most of my flower crops/teas that already exist in that mod so as to not over-saturate the content being added to the game. That way you could still make use of mint herbs and make chamomile soaps with Wild Farming Revivals flowers/herbs instead. On the other hand it wouldn't be a huge deal for me to make Soap and Lye super basic and make a separate mod that adds additional content, so let me know what you think. You can also reach me through my discord link at the top of this mod page and dm me if you prefer.

I don't want to diminish your enthusiasm, and this isn't meant as criticism. But I fear the mod is getting a bit bloated and straying from the basics.

May I suggest turning flower crops and teas, etc., into a separate mod?

Its just, I already use "Wild Farming Revival" and "Make Tea," so flower crops and tea would be superfluous for me.

Brun that was it lol, i was trying to use lye not Lye soap

Parf Willobe
I just tested washing wool with the soap from my mod and everthing seems to be working perfectly on my end. Are you both sure that you're using "Lye soap" and not regular Lye (liquid)? Parf I see that you mentioned using the regular lye liquid so that might have been your issue. I know the liquid models can be a little hard to tell apart but soap has a slightly different texture and color, besides the name of course 😂. An important thing to note as well is that any amount of liquid soap can exist in the barrel as long as there's enough to cover however many fleeces you want to wash at a ratio of 1 fleece per 0.5L of liquid soap. Oh yeah and lye soap bars can be made from combining liquid lye and animal fat in a barrel. It's also worth noting that pressing certain flowers or using honey can "scent" the regular lye soap bars into colored variants that require half as much soap for each piece of wool! Soap bars turn into liquid with water in a barrel and the liquid soap is what you need to use. I know it sounds a little confusing but I'll be sure to release a guidebook page at some point that explains the process in more detail!

Willobe I just got here to say something similar! Brun What do you think about adding compatibility with Wool & More? Currently wool fibers must be cleaned in limewater or diluted borax like vanilla rawhides. I don't know how lye works in real life, so if "cleaning freshly shorn wool with liquid lye" sounds unrealistic, I'd accept that reasoning. I'm roleplaying as a livestock rancher and never going underground means I have to trade my way to borax/lime. 😅

Edit: just saw in the description that it literally lists compatibility. Huh! I can't soak my disgustingly dirty sheep's wool in lye! A bug?

Also came around to say in our multiplayer server with Wildcraft Trees, we're doing a temporary workaround for the log incompatibility using a redwood corner log exchange chest, with redwood logs spawned through Creative. I was determined to have this mod work and I think our dinky little exchange booth is charming. 😇

So i see the reciepe for cleaning wool but the barrel wont seal, i even tried just one piece to 20 lye.

wael6
Ah I see! Sorry for the confusion. I do like the idea of different "paths" or options you have with each flower and having your choice impact what results you can achieve. For instance, coming in the next update you will be able to make chamomile tea and oil. To make oil you have to press the fresh flowers but, in order to make tea you need to dry the flowers out first and then cook it with water in a cooking pot over a fire pit. I'll be sure to add more methods of using herbs in the future but for now potions are a little out of scope for this mod. I also recall seeing another mod made specifically for potions called Alchemy which probably does a much better job than I could lol. But maybe I can try to implement compatibility for it in the future? 🤔

Charlesunicorn
Thanks so much! 😄 I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying what I've done so far! To be honest with you I already have a draft mod set up for Vintage Prehistory that's currently unlisted. The mod is nowhere near complete as of right now though and I took a small break from it to work on Soap and Lye. Fun fact: Soap and Lye started out as a very basic mod based off of one of the features I really liked in Vintage Prehistory. Somewhere along it's development I thought that people might enjoy the soap and lye concept as a small addition to the normal game without having to play with fossils. As for Vintage Prehistory I will work more on the draft page and most likely provide a link to it from my other mod pages at the bottom section "Check out my other mods!". Just keep in mind that everything I show off for Vintage Prehistory is very much a work in progress and some things could completely change or be removed before it's release 😅.

Brun i wasn't really talking about making oil inside of the mortar and pestle i was talking about the flowers you grounded inside of the mortar and pestle would give more oil in the fruit press after that, and that also just was an example for what grounding them would do, was mostly talking about making infusions you could make with grounded herbs/flowers (maybe even actual potions)

Hey Brun! Completely unrelated to this mod, but just wanted to say that I would be so excited to see your draft for the fossils mod (Vintage Prehistory) come to life!! I think fossils fit so well and the idea of going on expeditions to find fossils, uncovering them and then being able to display them would be such a cool addition to the game! Love your work, keep it up!

wael6
A mortar and pestle sounds like a great way to make use of herbs in the early game! Though I'm not sure on the balancing of it producing more oil than a fruitpress does. I'll have to look more into Ancient Tools and see how Soap and Lye could grow alongside it.

would be nice to have exclusive recipes for the mortar and pestle from ancient tools to do some more herbalism with some of the plants (could just be crushing them makes it require less flowers to make the same amount of oil)

Michael00181
I've just added compatibility with the Wool & More mod in version 1.1.5 😄. Thanks for the suggestion!

Can we get compatability with wool and more so we can use lye to clean fleece for wool fibers?

No issue Brun glad i could help.

CrazedVantaBlack
Thank you for the reply! I have just downloaded and comfirmed that wildcraft trees is the culprit for this issue. The mod replaces all of the fire pit "cooking" for almost all of the log types, which in return overrides what I've made. I believe I already know how to fix this problem and I should have an update out sometime tonight.

Update: I've contacted the creator of Wildcraft Trees to see if they can help me implement compatibility. Sorry for any inconvenience in the meantime.

I can Brun confirm that the update has not fixed the issue. redwood corners are the only thing that registers when you try to make wood ash. i too am using Wildcraft Trees and shrubs and Wildcraft revival. so it might very well be a conflict.

Schplim
I've just put out an update (V1.1.4) which should fix this issue. Let me know if your problem still exists.

The mod seems really great but sadly I'm having the same issue as Artor where I can't make wood ash out of anything else than corner redwood logs. My guess is that it's a mod compability problem. (either Trees and Shrubs or Wild Farming revival as those are probably the only 2 ones I currently have that add new logs) But for some reason the mods themselves seem to break the recipe in a way that you cannot use the vanilla logs either.

Parf
An interesting idea for sure lol. To be honest I barely know how the repairing mechanic works for broken clutter but I can look into it and see what I can do.

love this as a supplement for leather-making! do you think it'd be appropriate to add a cleaning functionality for broken clutter using soap? i know glue repairs it, but this could provide an alternate way of acquiring/fixing clutter with soap on hand.

wael6

As practical, realistic, and awesome as that would be I'm not sure of a way to pull it off. It would have to be done in code and could get quite complex; far more than I am capable of doing at this time. I'll keep it in mind for a future update nonetheless. Thanks for the suggestion!

could be cool if wood used as fuel could become ash (maybe an item dropping when it finishes to burn or dropping corresponding on the amount you burned when you break the firepit/clean it with a new tool/sticks ?

Michael00181
I love that idea! I will definitely add it in the next update!

Delighted to hear that Brun, I admit I don't know a thing about coding so the simplest solution for now would lkely be using some ammount of soap with a bandage to make an item like "Bandage and soap portion." Maybe make them heal 5 HP vs the 7HP od the alcahol soaked bandages but without the drying out effect? It'd still make them better than the regular bandages 3HP. 

Michael00181
I have thought about adding more direct uses for the player. Both of your ideas do seem like they would fit well in this mod but I'll have to see if I can figure out how to implement it. I am still in the learning process of mod development, especially when it comes to coding, but I'll see what I can do!

would you ever consider some other benefits to soap? such as a temporary buff from cleaning yourself with soap that reduces animal detection range or perhaps a buff to healing effectiveness for some time after cleaning yourself with scented soaps? Perhaps making a cleaned bandage that isn't as good as the alcahol saoked one but is still good as you've portioned some soap with it to clean wounds. 

Artor
I'm not sure what you mean. From what I can see everything looks normal. If it's liquid lye you're trying to make you have to click on the white liquid first in order to see the barrel recipe.

Edit: I just realized what you meant and I believe I have fixed the problem with log variants not cooking into wood ash. These changes take place in version 1.1.2

1.20.12

https://imgur.com/a/8GDAYnQ

Just ain't working.

Aeonsteel

I'm glad you like the mod! I'll be sure to add trading in the next small update along with the next two flowers/soaps. 😊

This mod seems really cool! Can't wait for traders to buy them, I always like immersive production of items to trade for rusty gears. This will help scratch that itch, since Book Trader is currently broken.

Artor
What version are you playing on? I just tested on both 1.20.12 and 1.21.0-pre.1 with no issues.

 So for some reason I can only seem to make wood ash from redwood trees.

I've ran into some minor issues and had a lot of stuff to deal with irl so the next update will be later on this week but definitely out by the weekend. I've already implemented RowanSkie's suggestion for potash as well as a new soap bar and liquid system based off of SeniLiX's ideas for the mod! Next up on the list is buying/selling soap bars and bottled liquid soap to traders.

RowanSkie
I can work on that this afternoon and hopfully have an update tonight. There are some other things I'd like to add/change as well so if not tonight then definitely tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion!

This can potentially replace this other mod if only it were able to make potash. 

SeniLiX
Very interesting ideas! I think soapy water would be a great way to make the cleaning process more realistic. I suppose I'll have to think up another use for bars of soap then since I could just create the liquid soap in a barrel in the first place. Maybe the bars could be colored/scented with various flowers and be sold to traders or collected as displayable items.

A couple of suggestions:

Instead of simply combining the mordanted cloth with a piece of soap in a crafting grid, how about introducing soap water?

Step 1: X number of litres of water in a barrel. Dump a piece of soap in it and it becomes soap water.

Step 2: Have the cloth soak in the barrel for X amount of time.

Second suggestion:

Use Soap water to let the player clean a dirty pot by soaking it for X amount of time.

Hydromancerx
At a glance it would appear that floralrat's "Oils! From seed to Substance" mod takes a more complex approach at turning grains and vegetables into oils with many uses. His mod also has a lot more uses and recipes for soap and oil. My mod takes a more basic approach to soap and lye while maintaining similar functionality. At the moment "Soap and Lye" is just a small mod that stems from a much larger code mod I'm developing called "Vintage Prehistory". While in development I thought it might be a good idea to release this mod as I had not seen a similar mod and I thought people might enjoy these features on thier own.

How's this mod compare to the soap from the Oils mod?

Astella
I have fixed to download for real this time 😅. Thank you for pointing it out!

Hi! I was trying to download this mod but its not downloading as a winzip!

Moon_Dew
Thanks for the heads up! I've fixed the download now so everything should be working. Let me know if you discover any other issues!

You're probably gonna want to reupload your mod, it's not downloading as a zip file.