Read the patch notes! Don't be like me and update to 2.3.0 not realizing it will break your kegs and tuns! :b

When using Vanilla Variants mod, well winches cannot be crafted using default oak axles. However, axles from other wood types work without issue and can be used for any winch including oak.

Commenting in case anyone else trips up over the obvious like I did:

• F to switch tool mode on the pickaxe or shovel.
• The winch only raises/lowers via its handle. When you place the winch, if you're standing within 90 degrees of the block you place it against, the handle will be inside the block.

Is it possible to have items that make you more thirsty when worn? 

I'm thinking about balancing armor wearing on my server by introducing a harsh thirst penalty when its worn, so that it would stay off more. 

Water wheel when? Also I love the idea of mods like this adding crazy side items that are better than independant items from specialized mods.

Just came to my notice but:

This update will break existing HoD blocks when updating from an older version, including contents of kegs. Please plan accordingly. (Move liquids to vanilla barrels and break and replace the broken blocks after updating) Unfortunately a remap can't fix this as the block id's themselves have not changed.

Thank you FatherSarge for reporting this.

SWEEEEEEET!

fricken love this mod.

Aw buck yea

I had wanted hand pumps for this mod for like the last week. LO AND BEHOLD! (get out of my head, and great work)

Version 2.3.0 Released

Norbix no planned date, I generally wait for Chrono to review the changes. Shouldn't be that far away, worst case I'll end up doing a release myself in about a week.

Norbix, seems like wellwater is trying to freeze under the perfect conditions (freezing temperature, still, height 7 and with nothing above it that stops rain) Don't think we ever noticed this because of well winches. I'll look into fixing it.


Edit: that seems to indeed be the case... shouldn't be fatal, expect it fixed in next release.

Hey got this error on server (not first time)

22.11.2025 16:21:50 [Error] Exception thrown in block.OnServerGameTick() for block code 'hydrateordiedrate:wellwater-fresh-clean-natural-still-7':
22.11.2025 16:21:50 [Error] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.BlockWater.OnServerGameTick(IWorldAccessor world, BlockPos pos, Object extra) in VSSurvivalMod\Block\BlockWater.cs:line 94
   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerSystemBlockSimulation.OnServerTick(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Server\Systems\World\BlockSimulation.cs:line 973

It's something that i should worried about?

ProphetOfMercy, It's not a static speed. it depends on wether it's a shallow well or a deep well and in the later case it depends on the aquifer rating.

A_Kooll_alice, short answer: bad base game code.... essentially it starts boiling at 100 degrees and then you have to wait for the "craft timer" during which it will continue to heat up to the "max temperature" (see long answer if you want to know why this is 200)

long answer: the "max temperature" of what you are cooking on a firepit is defined on the item in the input slot, which in this case is the cooking pot that which has a max temperature of 200 defined, since we can't just change this as it would affect everything cooked in a cooking pot we would have to make a Harmony transpiler patch to conditionally redirect the code to custom logic associated with the liquid in about 6 different locations and we'd also have the fix the way heating is handled because heating up to 100 degrees happens way too fast compared to after 100 degrees.

How long does it take for a well to add one extra water block to itself?

why is the temp for boiling water set to 200? distilled is 100 sholdnt the normal boiled water also just be 100 since thats litarlty when water boils?

Not a bug report just a psa.

I found a crash between "Crawl and dive" and "Hydrate or dydrate."

The fix was Easy. Go into hydrate or dydrate config lower or remove the penalty for carrying liquids.

"LiquidEncumbrance" to false from true. Line 24.

In short both crawling and having enough liquid weight on you would cause your speed to go below zero and crash.

The issue is not this mod but a combination of the two slow down effects.

Both mods work flawlessly on thier own and together minus this one issue.

Beyond that one issue ive had this mod running on my server for over a month with no issues and absolutely love the immersion it adds.

System.ArithmeticException: Function does not accept floating point Not-a-Number values.
at System.Math.Sign(Double value)

ArmoredStone, that is a vanilla issue entirely unrelated to this mod.

This is a pretty minor bug, but I can't easily put 6 liters of water in a cooking pot to boil. if I hold a stack of two jugs with 3 liters of water, trying to put both in at once results in 5.98 liters, and it won't let me put the other .02 in. I have to pick up one jug at a time to dump into it.

Sengo, the stacktrace indicates that the client didn't receive a config, meaning you likely have an early error/warning server side (and yes server side still runs even in single player), or the mod is not being loaded on the server (can happen if you incorrectly change the modpath vintage story uses)

Please provide the 'server-main' and 'client-main' log file located  at '%appdata%\VintagestoryData\Logs', preferably on discord or github as mentioned right above the comment section.

Hi, i have a bug with HoD on vanilla game 1.21.1
I cleared old configs and etc. , reinstalled the game but nothing helps.
Also i tried older versions of mod like 2.2.26 (the newest), 2.2.25 but also have this troubles.
Log there:

7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] An exception was thrown when trying to start the mod:
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] Exception: Value cannot be null. (Parameter 's')
   at System.Convert.FromBase64String(String s)
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.Config.ConfigManager.LoadModConfigFromWorldConfig(ICoreAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Config\ConfigManager.cs:line 55
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.Config.ConfigManager.EnsureModConfigLoaded(ICoreAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Config\ConfigManager.cs:line 22
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.StartPre(ICoreAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.cs:line 52
   at Vintagestory.Common.ModLoader.TryRunModPhase(Mod mod, ModSystem system, ICoreAPI api, ModRunPhase phase) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModLoader.cs:line 661
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] Failed to run mod phase Pre for mod HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] An exception was thrown when trying to start the mod:
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.Start(ICoreAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.cs:line 166
   at Vintagestory.Common.ModLoader.TryRunModPhase(Mod mod, ModSystem system, ICoreAPI api, ModRunPhase phase) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModLoader.cs:line 664
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] Failed to run mod phase Start for mod HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] An exception was thrown when trying to start the mod:
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] Exception: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.StartClientSide(ICoreClientAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.cs:line 219
   at Vintagestory.Common.ModLoader.TryRunModPhase(Mod mod, ModSystem system, ICoreAPI api, ModRunPhase phase) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModLoader.cs:line 675
7.11.2025 17:03:06 [Error] Failed to start system HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem

IgnisPolonia, HoD does not touch wine recipes/crafting.

Did a quick test to confirm and it worked just fine for me with the following mods:

• Wildcraft: Fruits and Nuts (the mod that adds this pulp mechanic you speak of)
• Expanded Foods (would be my number 1 suspect in this case, especially considering past issues/incompatibilities Wildcraft: Fruits and Nuts)
• Hydrate Or Diedrate
• Required dependencies of the above mods.

There's some kind of conflict. I used to make wine by adding two liters of pulp to ten liters of juice. Now it doesn't work at all, and I can't close the barrel. What's more, regular juice doesn't close the barrel either. I have expaded foods, but I doubt that's it. Basically, the pulp-adding mechanism is broken.

Aicien

I don't know what your buddy's configuration file looks like but it sure doesn't sound like default configuration... with default config:
1. you won't surpass 150% thirst rate even when sprinting, unless the outside temperature is more then 27.0 C
2. you'd lose 1 bar of health per damage tick not 4 (unless you have some kind of massive lag/delay or bug, edit: or some mod tweaking health bar)

Btw armor/clothing does affect it but only indirectly through the temprature calculations, if your clothes got sufficient "cooling" stat or the outside temperature isn't that high you won't have any increased thirstrate at all.

Aicien

Everything you are complaining about is tunable in the config, take it up with your friend and have them change the config if you think its too hard, should be able to get to something yall are happy with

I think this mod is okay. I play on a friend's server that runs this mod and honestly the thirst feels too punishing. The values feel like too much when just trying to go exploring or do anything out in the world. Definitely needs to be a tune down because I feel like I shouldn't be having over 200% thirst just for going out and exploring the world or being outside running around in my base. I know armor increases the values but I specifically wear light armor or no armor which makes 200% thirst feel ridiculous to deal with at times alongside the fact that 4 bars of health being taken for being dehydrated is severely punishing in my opinion. honestly, thirst shouldn't feel as punishing as it is. Mod needs some rebalancing to make it feel better to play with. Either way I'm not gonna use it in any of my singleplayer worlds until it's better balanced. I'm still gonna play on my buddy's server but this mod is punishing nonetheless and feels like a slap in the face to be punished for eating as well. A large amount of food items make you lose hydration and some of them feel like you lose too much as well. In the end I'm hoping the mod dev balances thirst better so that it doesn't feel as punishing as it is now.

Are mods that alter stats of vanilla armor and clothes compatible with the cooling aspect of this mod? for example the mod (Warm Gambeson)

How do I tweak the stats of Make Tea teas. I want to increase the hydration of the teas to make it more rewarding.

Azraile, pumps are actually already in the making (Chrono has shown some neat previews on discord already)

I can finally boil massive amounts of water! Thank you for the ACA patch~

also was wondering if there any plans to add a pump so you don't have to lower and raise a bucket?

or chances that stuff can get into your well and contaminate it (other than animals)  if you don't have a cover on it 

it says you can upgrade how much the well can hold by the walls

Azraile you dont. You have to prospect to find a better quality aquifer. They generate in 32x32 chunks. So digging down or moving it somewhere else could have a better aquifer, but you cant upgrade a natural aquifer by building a fancier well.

yes but how do you upgrade the well to hold/produice more water?

I'm getting

28.10.2025 02:22:38 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] An exception was thrown when trying to start the mod:
28.10.2025 02:22:38 [Error] [hydrateordiedrate] Exception: Could not load file or assembly 'HardcoreWater, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'. The system cannot find the file specified.
at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.g____PInvoke|49_0(NativeAssemblyNameParts* __pAssemblyNameParts_native, ObjectHandleOnStack __requestingAssembly_native, StackCrawlMarkHandle __stackMark_native, Int32 __throwOnFileNotFound_native, ObjectHandleOnStack __assemblyLoadContext_native, ObjectHandleOnStack __retAssembly_native)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoad(AssemblyName assemblyName, StackCrawlMark& stackMark, AssemblyLoadContext assemblyLoadContext, RuntimeAssembly requestingAssembly, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound)
at System.Reflection.TypeNameParser.GetType(String typeName, ReadOnlySpan`1 nestedTypeNames, String assemblyNameIfAny)
at System.Reflection.TypeNameParser.GetTypeHelper(Char* pTypeName, RuntimeAssembly requestingAssembly, Boolean throwOnError, Boolean requireAssemblyQualifiedName)
at System.Reflection.CustomAttribute._CreateCaObject(RuntimeModule pModule, RuntimeType type, IRuntimeMethodInfo pCtor, Byte** ppBlob, Byte* pEndBlob, Int32* pcNamedArgs)
at System.Reflection.CustomAttribute.CreateCaObject(RuntimeModule module, RuntimeType type, IRuntimeMethodInfo ctor, IntPtr& blob, IntPtr blobEnd, Int32& namedArgs)
at System.Reflection.CustomAttribute.AddCustomAttributes(ListBuilder`1& attributes, RuntimeModule decoratedModule, Int32 decoratedMetadataToken, RuntimeType attributeFilterType, Boolean mustBeInheritable, ListBuilder`1 derivedAttributes)
at System.Reflection.CustomAttribute.GetCustomAttributes(RuntimeType type, RuntimeType caType, Boolean inherit)
at HarmonyLib.HarmonyMethodExtensions.GetFromType(Type type)
at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor..ctor(Harmony instance, Type type)
at HarmonyLib.Harmony.CreateClassProcessor(Type type)
at System.Linq.Enumerable.SelectArrayIterator`2.Fill(ReadOnlySpan`1 source, Span`1 destination, Func`2 func)
at System.Linq.Enumerable.SelectArrayIterator`2.ToArray()
at HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAllUncategorized(Assembly assembly)
at HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAllUncategorized()
at HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.StartPre(ICoreAPI api) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem.cs:line 58
at Vintagestory.Common.ModLoader.TryRunModPhase(Mod mod, ModSystem system, ICoreAPI api, ModRunPhase phase) in VintagestoryLib\Common\API\ModLoader.cs:line 661
28.10.2025 02:22:38 [Error] Failed to run mod phase Pre for mod HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrateOrDiedrateModSystem
28.10.2025 02:22:38 [Notification] Done loading and pre-starting client side mods.

with 2.2.25.

2.2.24 worked fine.

Edit - 2.2.26 working fine again, cheers.

Can you include some compatablity with 'A Culinary Artillery'? I have a cauldron full of 50L of rain water I want to boil, but I currently have to boil it 6L's at a time and it's painful.

Azraile, did you read the in game handbook page? to explain it extra simple:

Shallow well:
Just dig a piece of soil/dirt/sand near water (3 blocks distance max) using a shovel with the 'well digging' tool mode. (only creates muddy water though)

Deep Well:
Just dig straight down and mine the final block in stone using a pickaxe with the 'well digging' tool mode. Output varies based on Aquifer Rating which you can find out by prospecting.

Wells have to be 1x1 btw so don't make them wider.

ok how do you build wells .... i tried making it wider tried replacing the walls nothing seams to be changing the stats

MrOger, it actually always counts as an ore reading but HoD adds a custom message for this which `prospecttogether` does not use (they likely didn't extend vanilla method but created a modified copy), it's something we are aware of.

Alejo98, it needs to be 1x1 but it can be as deep as you want though it can only hold up to a certain amount of blocks depending on what the well shaft is made from, best material will increase it up to 10 blocks (with default configuration).
PS: there is an in game hand book page for this.

So i didn't read the description before building my own well, so i did a 2x2 well, creating 4 wells with the pickaxe.

From what I can gather, wells NEED to be a 1x1 hole and 5 blocks deep ?

can you use the cauldrons in culinary artillery to boil/purify water in mass and if not could you patch that?

Hey, there is a bit of weirdness with aquifer and prospecttogether mod, it counts aquifer as an ore reading, thus generating the % marker like an ore and thus influencing the coloring of the marker (high aquifer will lead to green marker which is usually meant for good ore readings). Would some sort of compatibility patch be needed from prospecting together for it, or there could be something simple done from this side?

AceGoat, yes the command has been fixed

Did you end up fixing the /setaquifer command?

Krazyfan1, honestly this sounds like something that would make a lot more sense to have as part of the Sekeleton Mod (or an addon) rather then doing it here.

Any chance for an option to allow users of the Skeleton Mod to not need to drink? so that players on a server still have the need, but not the ones that are skeletons?

Psyloh

Aquifer generation is not reliant on new chunks. Existing chunks will get aquifers as well.

Hey!
If my world is already generated, do acquifers will add up to prospection tooltips?
If not, you should probably add the worldgen tag :-/

Amarillo

Would love to help you troubleshoot that in the discord channel as stated in the notice at the bottom of the mod description.

v2.2.24 Released!
Fix wellspring water creation not respecting retaining wall limitations.
Fix muddy water generation in wellsprings going over intended limit and making muddy water pillars into the sky.

Im having an issue when boiling water. I place 1L of wate.r on the pot. It starts processing but the output "boiling water" ammount is weird, and keeps boiling and ¿reducing? the ammount to mL. When trying to collect it with a jug it disapears or sometimes the waters inside the jug get bugged and multiplies

    

Thank you for the answers...after reinstalling I found it and was able to build my well

Hello, is your mod compatible with "Make Salt"?

Luka, that would make sense as HoD just appends information to base game prospecting, there is no new prospecting tool mode.
(using new tool mode would be a pain to maintain unless we create a library for adding tool modes in a compatible way as the mod API way has 0% compatibility)

Undea, no primitive survival does not do so (primitive survival is one of the few mods I have turned on while developing so I'd know right away), it doesn't even touch toolModes in fact and this kind of issue would be caused by other mods adding toolmodes to the same item like XSkills. (we got hacky workaround code for XSkills specifically)

Primitive Survival is removing the tool modes, pickaxe and shovel.

@Luka maybe thats your problem too

For me, the Geologist's Hammer only has the function of searching for ores.
Maybe I need to reinstall everything and start a new world.
Thanks for the answer.

Luka honestly I don't really understand what you are stuck on, there is an in game handbook page on wells (the english one got an update recently so the other languages are probably still behind) and the prospecting is just base game stuff (except a bit easier, as it just straight up tells you the direction).

I can't figure out how to use the mod at all...how am I supposed to search for the water ard?
I'll have a shovel, pickaxe, or geologist's hammer, and a new search function.
Unfortunately, there's nothing online about it...some kind of tutorial.
Can anyone help me?

TheInsanityGod Thanks ^^

OrdinalChaos, the issue was actually with the well water block entity not getting added for existing well water, just released a fix for that (and yes it will fix it even for people that already updated)

EthelVril, you can use `/setaquifer 0~100` to change the aquifer rating of a chunk
(PS: it's a value associated with the chunk not really something you can spawn so to say)

Is there a command or way to spawn an aquafier? The village I built for my server was far away from any aquafiers w-w

New mod update seems to have broken my well, it shows well volume at both the wench and wellspring but the bucket on the winch never fills, tried replacing the wench and bucket, and redoing the wellspring itself but nothing allows it to be drawn from the winch.

v2.2.21 released!

Fixed /setaquifer command so it persists across reloading worlds

Well Springs are now the sole source of truth for well volume, in preparation for piping system.

Fixed well spring crashing in certain instances

Tapped Kegs and Untapped kegs are now variants instead of two separate blocks (please run remapper and reload save/server so any existing kegs can remap, this one will remap a lot quicker than the water remaps!)

Fixed xskill pickaxe tool mode compatibility

Potentially some other fixes I've forgotten about

New Config Options:

ThirstRateAtStoryLocations: Default 1.0 (normal thirst in story locations). Set to a value between 0-1 to set a lower thirst percentage in story locations. Or higher than 1 if you're a sadist!

Jaggedcan9ne

You can set water saturation loss per water type in the config.

Anyway to turn off the losing hunger from drinking water? Dont care about the balance issues, just a way to turn it off. Have another mod that someone is working on that deals with eating food that isnt out yet since they're still ironing out some kinks, and they want to test a few things for compatibility.

TheInsanityGod Awesome, thank you!

AceGoat, hmm actually no it seems to just not save in general. will look into this (expect it fixed in next release)

TheInsanityGod

Ah I see, thank you. So I use the command and then can just break a block or something and that will work?

AceGoat, aquifers are essentially just a numerical value associated with the entire chunk they aren't blocks or the likes and thus you can't really copy an aquifer using WorldEdit.

You can use `/setaquifer 0~100` to change the aquifer rating in the chunk you are standing in. Just remember to modify something about that chunk as there is currently a bug where the command doesn't mark the chunk dirty (resulting in the effect being lost if you don't do so)

PS: you can use '.debug wireframe chunk' to see the boundries of the chunk you are in.

Hey, question regarding this. If I copy and paste using WorldEdit a natural spawning aquifer, will that actually work as an aquifer or will it not be registered by the mod? I use it on my server and would like to add aquifers to important areas.

Vanra

Check out Lodeclaw, he does both no commentary and w/ commentary playthroughs using HoD.

Question sort of unralated hope its not against the rules... does anyone knows anyone playing with HoD on YouTube? My autistic brain really want to play with this mod, but im so overstimulated with new resource I cant handle it and would love to see someone one playing with it 😅

SecretFoxfire, `/sethydlossdelay YourPlayerName 0` (assuming you aren't running a very old version)

The thirst mechanic seems to have broken in my world and I'm not sure why. It worked fine for the first few hours of play. I still have the blue bar but it's not going down. In the C menu, "hydration delay" says "00:00:15" and has been stuck at that value for real-life hours. I still lose hydration from foods with meat and such, and can regain it by drinking, but it won't move on its own. I do have quite a few other mods installed but I'm not sure if any of them would interfere with this. Has anyone else experienced this, is it a known issue, or should I file a bug report? I wish I knew what triggered it, but who knows how long it had been like this when I finally noticed I wasn't needing to drink. :( 

Also, is there any command or anything I can run to reset the hydration delay timer so I can resume playing normally?

does anyone know if there's a way to disble well mining on the pickaxe? 

racsumsar, actually I changed that text to be larger and red 2 days ago (probably after you made that report), in the hopes that people would notice it more.

So you noticing it now is a good sign.

I must apologize about the bug report notice, I don't know how I miss the big red lettering

TheInsanityGod oooh thanks!

You might be right about not waiting long enough, it might have felt like a long time and thousands of messages but I might be too impatient. I'll try again and go do something else to actually give it a chance, and if that doesn't help I'll hit up the discord. The fact no one else has had this problem is really leaning toward user error haha

Edit: yeah, it was just me being mad impatient 😅 Thanks again for the help!

avianlights, I don't think this is an issue on HoD's part if you need help it would probably be best/fastest to get it on discord.

Though I am wondering if it's actually stuk in a loop or if you just didn't wait long enough, would except that message to apear about 1120 times before it's finished.

(there are a lot of remap commands because unfortunately the way liquids are currently done requires a lot of variants)

I've really been enjoying this mod and the extra depth it brings to the game!
Unfortunately, I've been having some issues with remapping in the server that I'm running - every time I try it ends up stuck in a loop of "[Server Debug] Block IDs have been written to savegame. Saved max BlockID was 45566" until I have to kill the server. I've been able to remap other mods, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's something that I'm doing wrong lol. I've tried searching to see if there was advice on this kind of problem but haven't been able to find anything. Do you happen to recognise the issue? I can post in the issue tracker if you'd like, I'm just not sure if this is a problem on the mods end or mine. 

Newfie, we need the entire log files: sever-main and client-main.

(The provided stacktrace only tells us that 'BehaviorPickaxeWellMode' wasn't registered most likely due to an earlier error in the startup process and that earlier error is what we need to know about)

racsumsar, stacktrace suggets that the ItemSlot isn't actually empty but contains an invalid ItemStack (likely added by some other mod) new version has an extra guard clause against this so shouldn't cause issues with HoD anymore.

got this crash when opening the trade gui on an agricultural trader, tried this on mod version 2.2.13 and .16, it corupted my save on .13 but not on .16, only detail I can add is that one item slot in the trade gui seems to be empty and that's just about what I get to see before it crashes

Running on 64 bit Windows 10.0.26100.0 with 32540 MB RAM
Game Version: v1.21.1 (Stable)
2025-09-23 18:47:38: Critical error occurred in the following mod: hydrateordiedrate@2.2.16
Loaded Mods: cbr@1.0.0, chiseltools@1.15.1, claycasting@1.3.4, dyedcloth@1.0.1, decor@1.2.1, dressedtokill@1.3.0, greesblastingpowder@1.0.3, harvestice@1.0.0, honeypressmittim@1.0.2, lightlevelone@2.0.0, lumberslingcontinued@1.0.5, millwright@1.2.8, MoreShingles@0.0.3, moretreesmoreseeds@1.0.0, mycodiversity@1.0.4, spyglass@0.5.2, temporalsymphony@2.2.1, game@1.21.1, aged@2.0.1, airthermomod@0.2.0, apeflowerpots@1.3.1, apewindows@1.4.0, attributerenderinglibrary@2.3.0, egocaribautomapmarkers@4.0.3, betterfirepit@1.1.6, blacksmithenhancements@1.1.4, carryon@1.10.9, cartwrightscaravan@1.7.2, commonlib@2.8.0, configurableroomsize@1.1.0, danatweaks@3.6.0, foodshelves@2.3.0, fromgoldencombs@1.9.2-rc.2, geartolife@1.0.1, glassroof@1.1.0, hydrateordiedrate@2.2.16, jopainting@1.4.1, mannequinstand@1.0.6, millwrightvawtaddon@1.0.2, petai@4.0.0, rpvoicechat@2.3.23, smithingplus@1.8.0-rc.3, statushudcont@3.3.1, stepupadvanced@1.2.1, substrate@1.1.2, tasshroombodyfat@0.0.16, toolsmith@1.2.8, unchisel@1.1.2, variantmeals@2.5.1, discordrichpresence@1.1.1, creative@1.21.1, survival@1.21.1, shearlib@1.2.0, stonequarry@3.5.1, tabletopgames@3.0.2, wolftaming@4.0.1, wool@1.7.1
Involved Harmony IDs: com.chronolegionnaire.hydrateordiedrate, spyglass
System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null. (Parameter 'key')
   at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.FindValue(TKey key)
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.HydrationManager.GetHydration(ItemStack itemStack) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Hydration\HydrationManager.cs:line 27
   at HydrateOrDiedrate.patches.CollectibleObjectGetHeldItemInfoPatch.Postfix(ItemSlot inSlot, StringBuilder dsc, IWorldAccessor world, Boolean withDebugInfo) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Hydration\Patches\CollectibleObjectGetHeldItemInfoPatch.cs:line 22
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.CollectibleObject.GetHeldItemInfo_Patch1(CollectibleObject this, ItemSlot inSlot, StringBuilder dsc, IWorldAccessor world, Boolean withDebugInfo)
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.Block.GetHeldItemInfo(ItemSlot inSlot, StringBuilder dsc, IWorldAccessor world, Boolean withDebugInfo) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\Block\Block.cs:line 2327
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.ItemStack.GetDescription(IWorldAccessor world, ItemSlot inSlot, Boolean debug) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Collectible\ItemStack.cs:line 402
   at Vintagestory.API.Common.ItemSlot.GetStackDescription(IClientWorldAccessor world, Boolean extendedDebugInfo) in VintagestoryApi\Common\Inventory\ItemSlot.cs:line 478
   at Vintagestory.GameContent.ItemSlotTrade.GetStackDescription(IClientWorldAccessor world, Boolean extendedDebugInfo) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Trading\ItemSlotTrade.cs:line 92
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudMouseTools.OnRequireInfoText(ItemSlot slot) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudMouseTools.cs:line 169
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementItemstackInfo.AsyncRecompose() in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\GuiElementItemstackInfo.cs:line 127
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementItemstackInfo.SetSourceSlot(ItemSlot nowSlot, Boolean forceRecompose) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\GuiElementItemstackInfo.cs:line 254
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.HudMouseTools.OnMouseEnterSlot(ItemSlot slot) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\Huds\HudMouseTools.cs:line 213
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientEventManager.TriggerOnMouseEnterSlot(ClientMain game, ItemSlot slot) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Util\ClientEventManager.cs:line 517
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.InputAPI.TriggerOnMouseEnterSlot(ItemSlot slot) in VintagestoryLib\Client\API\InputAPI.cs:line 50
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.OnMouseMove(ICoreClientAPI api, MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Inventory\GuiElementItemSlotGridBase.cs:line 901
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.OnMouseMove(MouseEvent mouse) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 505
   at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnMouseMove(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 618
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnMouseMove(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 447
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.OnMouseMove_Patch0(ClientMain this, MouseEvent args)
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.UpdateMousePosition() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\Input.cs:line 113
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 103
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95

Ah, I have not updated yet and did not see the message. I will test it on a backup world just to be safe. Thanks for clarifying so quickly!. 

Darkminion

If updating an existing world, on first load it will prompt you to run the remap. If for whatever reason you skipped this by accident, I'm not totally sure if theres a way to run just the HoD remap but /fixmapping applyall should do a full remap of everything though doing a full remap might have some unexpected consequences so make sure to make a backup of your save if you do this. Alternatively you can run every /iir command in assets/hydrateordiedrate/patches/remaps/liquidrefactor.json but there are quite a lot of them.

Do I need to run the /fixmapping command or are there specific blocks that need to be remapped with /iir when upgrading past v2.2.13?

Redpaws

Warmth and cooling are mutually exclusive so one won't effect the other. the default of 1 for an empty slot is the same as +1C. So in essence if a clothing item is less than 1, it will be better for cooling to wear nothing in that slot.

Are heat and cooling two separate stats, or do they 'conflict'? As in, if something gives +2C warmth and +2C cooling, does it mean it does nothing at all, or give protection against both heat and the cold?

And with default cooling bonus being "1" for each empty slot, is that the same as having +1C cooling clothing in that slot?

v2.2.14 Released!

traugdor

Awesome! Thats always good to hear.

Dmhir

I am working on a companion mod that adds more containers and more liquid storage and management options. Containers like canteens and stuff will likely show up there!

canteens; leather, metal variants?

Just an idea. I'm ex-military so having water on my person 24/7 is natural and I would being able to make a leather canteen in game or more.

I have added a feature in my mod (https://news.kalataka.ru/expandedstomach) so that if yours is present, I will adjust the location of my HUD bar. Due to the nature of HoD, I had to test whether drinking would lower hunger in my mod properly and it does.

Our mods are fully compatible with each other.

Hoffmiester, this mod doesn't touch world generation at all.

I feel like this mod really interferes with world gen, I have been compiling some mods and testing the word gen, so I can get vast oceans but since adding this mod it feels like it's returned the world gen to pre 1.20 where oceans are near non existing, even when changing the land mass down to the 60% I've been testing with I havent come across a single coast

Oh boy, time to suffer in a desert again. Yaay!

v2.2.13 Released

Wells and wellsprings can now operate with ladders or other "non solid" solid blocks in the way. So now you can put lights in and/or make a safe way to climb in and out of your well shafts to clean out critter corpses and what not without blocking your winch!
Updated RU translation, thanks ChimMAG!

Boiled rain water once again spoils back into regular rain water instead of directly into normal water.

Minor updates to the Russian translation that occurred in the latest version of the mod.

GON

I plan on moving kegs and tuns to a companion mod that adds new ways to manage and store liquid, so when that happens they won't be included in HoD at all anymore.

Hi there,The mod https://news.kalataka.ru/foodshelves also adds kegs and tuns. I was wondering if there would be a way to either disable one of the mod's items or make the compatible in some way so there's less redundancy ? 

v2.2.12 released!

Fix For invalid patch configs that crops up sometimes

Wells no longer use a gui and well inventory is now directly driven by in world actions

Boiling water is no longer a recursive recipe

Aquifer prospecting has been fully refactored for easier maintainability (and better compatibility!)

I'm glad to see the boiled water seeped up from the ashes 😁

v2.2.11 Released!

Hotfix for Gourmand Compatibility, due to having to load HoD recipe generation earlier to work with Gourmand, its possible that a custom recipe might get missed by HoD, let me know in discord if a recipe that uses water doesn't work with HoD water.

Boiling water recipes added back in because I accidentally drone striked them.

HoD doesn't try to generate variants of it's own recipes.

I am unable to boil water in a pot in the latest version. So I am reverting to the previous one until this issue is fixed or the new recipe is made known.

2.2.10 ignores the perish toggle, it seems.

seems to be having conflict issues with Gourmand 

New version is sadly incompatible with gourmand it seems :( 

System.ArgumentException: gourmand: the new collectibles dictionary contains collectible hydrateordiedrate:boiledwaterportion, which is missing in the loaded collectibles dictionary. Likely a mod added assets to the client without adding them to the server.
   at Gourmand.Collectibles.CategoryDict.ValidateSubsetOf(CategoryDict other)
   at Gourmand.CategoryDict.ValidateRulesAlreadyLoaded(IWorldAccessor resolver, IEnumerable`1 newCollectibleRules)
   at Gourmand.CategoryDict.FromBytes(IWorldAccessor resolver, Int32 quantity, Byte[] data)
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientSystemStartup.HandleServerAssets_Step11() in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Startup.cs:line 902
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.ExecuteMainThreadTasks(Single deltaTime) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 760
   at Vintagestory.Client.GuiScreenConnectingToServer.RenderToDefaultFramebuffer(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\MainMenu\Screens\GuiScreenConnectingToServer.cs:line 298
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.Render(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 760
   at Vintagestory.Client.ScreenManager.OnNewFrame(Single dt) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ScreenManager.cs:line 663
   at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.window_RenderFrame(FrameEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\GameWindow.cs:line 113
   at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 338
   at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 133
   at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 95
Crash written to file at "D:\Games\Vintage Story\VS Installations\Blorg\Logs\client-crash.log"

does the new update for runtime water recipie generation make performance worse?

Umm there is no longer a recipe for boiled water? (in v2.2.10)

v2.2.10 Released!

Recipe Generator:

HoD will now automatically generate HoD water variant recipes at runtime for all recipes (including mod added ones) that include vanilla vintage story water portion items in their recipe. Goodbye to hundreds of included json patches! 

I'm unfortunately not supporting any updates on the 1.20.12 version anymore the latest version does not have any issues that I know of.

The 2.2.6 version that you backported to 1.20.12 has a bunch of errors with Expanded Foods compatibility patches on server launch. EDIT: These errors are also present in the 2.1.6 version.

Hi, when I launched the world, I got errors in the log, but I didn't really delve into this nonsense and decided to check it out.

In general, the game freezes terribly for 5-15 seconds periodically. At some point, freezes began to happen every minute of gameplay.

After disabling the mod, everything worked perfectly. Before version 1.21, there were also related problems, but lags were quite rare there.

v2.2.9

Fix clay pot texture mapping to match 1.21.

Ancient Technology bread recipe compatibility with HoD waters.

Fix better prospecting pick patch to be null safe which will prevent crashing when your propick breaks when HoD is installed alongside and you use density search.

Some Null safety in the regular prospecting pick patch just in case.

Replace harmony patch signature with patched versions of CoA, should work with the unnofficial versions, will need to be reverted back when mod officially updates.

Hi there! I just had a crash in game version 1.20.12 with HoD version 2.2.6 when breaking a block with a prospecting pick, and the pick broke at that moment.
Crash report suggests a conflict with HoD and Better Prospecting, but I also suspect SmithingPlus might be involved perhaps? Because when the prospecting pick broke it would have given a tool head. Not sure if it's actually involved though.
I'm not sure if this is an issue with HoD's or Better Prospecting's side.

While it's listed that this mod has compatibility with Ancient Tools, sadly you can't use boiled water to make the bread doughs from Ancient Tools :(

does anyone have problem that when changing in confinguration to use CTRL instead of shift, it doesnt take effect and it still uses shift? (need the change for carry on) :(

Quick question, is there mean to still be a patch for game:blocktypes/clay/pot.json? Because so far as I can tell that doesn't exist in 1.21 anymore.

Dirty_Shisno, it affects the entire thing.

(Except for the IdleThirstModifier which is applied afterwards for some reason, but that's a reduction anyway)

Mawg you can do it anywhere yes, but depending on where you build it could end up producing barely anything.

Generally if you build it near a body of water (just make sure it's fresh) or just very deep then you are good to go.

Does ThirstDecayRateMax setting affect the max thirst increase of only the temperature or does it cap the whole thing? Mainly asking if the Sprint Multiplier is affected by the DecaRateMax setting.

@TheInsanityGod so i can do that anywhere? I dont have to find an actual cave with water in it? Location only matters for how "strong" the well will be?

slads, I could not reproduce with that alone. Please provide more detailed information such as:

1. Logs (server-main)
2. Which specific meal and is it a normal pot or modded?
3. Mod Version
4. Game Version

Mawg, you dig straight down and on the final block (where you want the bottom of the well to be) you dig with your pickaxe (or shovel if shallow) in 'well spring' mode.

Just keep in mind that the location of the well matters, you can use prospecting to find locations with better aquifer strength but as a general rule of thumb: 'deeper = better'

edit: you can put down a well winch above it to see the actual stats of the well spring (assuming you didn't disable this in config)

ive been trying to find a video tutorial or something, but i have no idea how the well digging is suppose to be done, i tried alot in creative mode but i never get it to work. can someone make a detailed description please. am i suppose to dig a hole all the way down or not?

Hello everyone,
I've been having a problem since updating to 1.21.
When I cook in a pot, the food doesn't turn into a meal; the cooking bar just stays stuck at maximum.
When I deactivate the mod, this problem disappears.
Has anyone else had this problem?
I love this mode; I'd really have a hard time doing without it...

Just gonna throw out the suggestion for a waterskin again. I think it'd really fit the game well. :)

Thank you for the reply
I tested without any other mod but I did once install salty mod, I will look to clean my game and retry thank you so much for this info.
If I see anything else I will be sure to go on the discord server. 
Salty has updated his mod, reinstalling it corrected everything. 
I will now enjoy having hydration problem
Thanks for all the help.

Tenmosu, we had other people report this error on discord and after testing we found out that it's not an issue with HoD but with a mod of SaltyWater which has an older Harmony dll embedded and somehow this one is being loaded instead of the one shipped with vintage story, SaltyWater has been informed and is working on fixing this.

Chronolegionaire 

I didn't think think you would be helping here, I can tell you what problem I found. 
No info about Hydrate are found in the character tab. ( nothing is written under Ranged charge speed)
Drinking from any item( bowl, jug) doesn't hydrate but still reduce satiety.
Only drinking from a water source by hand work. 
I have retry with the updates releash yesterday ( 2.2.8) it give me the same Error message has ( 2.2.7)

I tried to delete everything in the config folder, still the same error.
I could be wrong but I believe the Aquifer do not generate and interfere with my other world generation mod.
I tried launching a game with only Hydrate mod if it a new game it work, if it a game that had a world generation mod it give me the same error in my crash report.

Sorry again for not giving any kind of info at my first comment, I just wanted to let you know about the incompatibility.
Hope it can help you find the issus.

Delete all your HoD configs in your mod config folder and restart your game.

First of all, love this mod. Makes deserts especially challenging!

Just updated. Can load in OK, but I'm getting this:

Edit: after playing for a bit, I notice my hydration bar is not going up when drinking boiled water out of a bowl, and I seem to have gained permanent orange bar from drinking still water. :(

Edit2: after deleting configs and cache, I narrowed it down to another mod (Eden Instinct) causing this error. Something to do with the aquifer data.

Tenmosu

I am unable to reproduce any issues with Hydrate or Diedrate when I have Plains and valleys installed. Non code based world gen mods are extremely unlikely to cause any issues.

Got it  !
Thank you very much !

This mod isn't compatible with Plains and valleys from Tentharchitect
kind of sad I like my world and removing terrain gen mod create massive hole of missing chunk
version of Vintage sory 1.21

@TheInsanityGod

pre-cursor: it went away after I rejoined the world.

1. no (there are logs for this mod?)

2. yes, i deleted the config when i re-created the world.

3. current

4. current

PS: i simply love this mod. it adds very vanilla feeling mechanics that make the game that much better for me. thanks a lot for making it!

if i can reproduce it, i'll let you know.

netshaman

Delete all your HoD configs in your mod config folder and restart your game.

Installed the last version ( 2.2.7 ) and get this error message at start : "

ChimMAG

I'll add that for next version, thank you!

TheRealFlynn, I cannot get this reproduced.

1. have you checked the logs?
2. have you tried re-generating the config files?
3. what mod version?
4. what game version?

eating mutliple stacks of food results in no reduction of nutrition deficit

have gone into creative and given myself stacks of food and fresh water, and it then back into survival, to consume it all and nothing. it will not go away.

also, this is in a brand new world

And, as always, an update to the Russian translation. You added three more lines, and I translated them.

Ashleyyy33, please provide the following:
1. The actual stacktrace
2. The mod version
3. The game version

('System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.' is one of the most common types of exceptions that is useless without the actual stacktrace.)

Im being thrown one of the same types of errors as down there, the object reference one and its not going away. Ive reinstalled the mod, played with the configs, etc and nothings getting it to go away. I deleted my whole modlist, and reinstalled this, still there.

Not sure if this is on Xskills side or this mod but with both installed you don't have the pickaxe option for digging wells just veinmine from xskills. Using 1.21 Unofficial patch xskills

PSA if updating directly from 1.20 version of HoD to 1.21, please delete and regenerate your configs to avoid issues.

TheInsanityGod

Thank you!

Can confirm, turning HarshHeat Off while leaving Thirst On causes this. I'll get to working on it.

Actually, I think it might be related to disabling HarshHeat and maybe Thirst in the config, seems like there is no null check on the behavior in `UpdateDynamicTexts` Chronolegionaire

Harbardthr

 Make sure you download the correct version of the mod for your vintage story version.

1.20.12 

no matter what i do - every time i open my character info page CTD

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at HydrateOrDiedrate.patches.CharacterExtraDialogs_ComposeStatsGui_Transpiler.UpdateDynamicTexts(Object __instance, CachedUIElements cached) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Patches\CharacterExtraDialogsPatch.cs:line 238
at HydrateOrDiedrate.patches.CharacterExtraDialogs_ComposeStatsGui_Transpiler.InjectExtraUi(Object __instance) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Patches\CharacterExtraDialogsPatch.cs:line 210

I mean we using LAN through Hamachi, its not great but its working, our internets got 100mb's so it shouldnt be problem and its not unless u add mods. When u add over 40 mods the game starts to go crazy... Do you know if hosting a server with mods fixes this issues? Or its the same

Sianks, if  with 'teleportation' you refer to the 'you constantly getting teleported back a bit while walking issue' then that is actually a base game issue that becomes more pronounced as you have more mods using the `WatchedAttributes` of the player (base game logic does a full resync if too many are marked dirty at the same time and this results in position being resynced a well)

HoD's impact on this issue has been minized as of 2.1.3
Vigor has done similar adjustmens to minimize impact in, though probably still has relatively more impact (since it's something that has to be synced more frequently as it is directly related to movementspeed)

btw LAN doesn't say much about the speed/quality of the connection 😅

I dont think its good mod for LAN runs with your friends, isnt it? Ive tried with and without it (among few other mods which doesnt prove this mod is causing the issue) the game runs much better without lag spikes and teleportations. Vigor has same issue, while being deleted everything works smoothly, also Gaining water or Stamina (im talking about your and other popular mods that's in same branch) is delayed for non host players, the delay is like 4s, but this might be due to lag spikes that were happening with these mods

BloodW0lf

Compatibility only took like 15 minutes to add, i am just waiting on the aquifer refactor to finish and I can push a new version. In the mean time its extremely easy for users to patch them in yourself if you can't wait. Just add in the new entries into your add hydration config. 

any luck on the floral zones update?

BurnBird

Any items from floral zones that aren't supported were added after I added the initial support for them about a year ago. I'll take a look and see what new items have been added and add support for them in the next update.

Despite stating comaptibility with floral zones, the mod does not seem to support Floral Zones Cosmopolitan or Mediterranean. The drinks made from Floral Zones Central Australia also are not covered.

0w0, issue has been identified and fixed (at least on 1.20, not going to re-install 1.21 again today :p)

ps: probably still a bit higher when doing minor work because the idle calculation was fixed (before if you weren't moving in the exact calculation tick that happens every 10 seconds then you would be considered idle)

Oh I'm must be tired, I had no idea the fat bar could be moved, and sorry I've no idea what changed, I'll look at your change log just seemed to be running out of hydration too quickly and hadn't any clue as to what may be causing it. I would just be doing minor work around my place in game but It was like I was full sprint in a desert  while eating jerky! (or atleast its what it felt like) it just seemed an unreallistic amout of thirst rate for just minor work.

Edit: Yup, I'm dumb... thank you for telling me about the move option on That Mod!

0w0

That mod specifically mentions that it has a command to move the fat bar...(also this isn't really an HoD issue but an inter mod compatibility issue)

As for the "having to drink waaay more often for no reason":
What exactly does "for no reason" mean? thirst rate is not static but is affected by stuff like movement and temperature. (edit: looking into it)

(also keep in mind that "Values are subject to change based on user feedback to achieve better balance", as mentioned in the disclaimer)

I'm having a small issue with this mod's thirst bar hiding up under the fat bar from "Body Fat" mod by Tasshroom;  I waited for an update to fix the issue but it's still pressent.

Can I have this looked at please?

Edit: Also noticed I'm having to drink waaay more often for no reason!

Chronolegionaire thank you for the update on the 1.20.12 version!

*EVERYONE MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD ALWAYS PROPER VERSION WHICH MATCHES YOUR GAME VERSION*

v2.1.3 and v2.2.3 released for both 1.20 and 1.21 rc

Major refactor of thirst and hot temperature behavior, thank you TheInsanityGod.for your hard work and dedication!

Thirst related attributes are now handled in their own tree so as not to clog up vanilla attribute updates.

Body heat attributes are similarly separated.

Rubber band bug officially squashed.

ChimMAG, without the logs we honestly can't say much.

As I understand there are currently 2 note worthy issues:
1. People downloading the latest versions not realizing that they are for 1.21 which makes it incompatible with older game versions (because base game has upgraded to .NET8)
2. Rubberbanding (refactor/fix for this is in testing phase)

Version 2.1.2 (the latest version after 1.20.12) still does not function. I deleted the configuration files, but it did not resolve the issue. If necessary, I can provide the error logs, but I understand that I am not the only one experiencing this problem.

P.S. Yes, I read about Discord. I want to understand - is it just me, or does it not work at all?

P.S.S. Surprisingly, I just tried it on another computer and on the server, and everything works. I'll figure out what's going on with my home Vintage.

Chronolegionaire would it be possible to make a fix for 1.20.12 too? As we are playing with and noticing it too.

MikeSyrup

We just identified the problem for the rubber banding and a fix is hopefully incoming. It will only be for 1.21 but hopefully ya'll can give it a shot when your server updates and let me know.

Chronolegionaire We're on 1.20.12 actually, I think it could just be the amount of mods but not 100% sure

I need someone who is experiencing the rubber banding issue who is willing to playtest several different versions of HoD to try and pinpoint where the issue might be coming from. Ping me on the vintage story discords Hydrate or Diedrate mod thread if you want to help. I am unable to ever reproduce it on my end and its near impossible to track down a fix if I can't get it to even happen on my machine.

Chronolegionaire Hey - came to report a different bug after removing this mod (turns out not a bug, I think it was accidentally a salt water puddle I drank out of) - but also noticed the unexplained rubber banding I'd been having on this save was fixed after removing your mod - I was on the latest version available here, running 1.21.rc1, so it seems you fix attempt may not have been successful

MikeSyrup

If your server is on 1.21rc (1 or 2) could you try out the latest version and let me know if the rubber banding was fixed? Its actually not a performance related issue, its a bug but I haven't gotten any response from anyone experiencing it, if it was fixed after my potential fix update.

Was the mod with the largest performance hit on our server. We do have a lot of mods (120 mods) but with this one specifically there was rubberbanding which was fixed after removing. I am a fan of the mod though and wish we could use it on the server.

Can't get it to work on 1.20.12 on any 1.20.x version of the mod. I shall patiently wait until all lines up when 1.21 is on stable :p

v2.2.1 Released

Flint_N_Steel

And milk drinkers everywhere, thank you for your mod!

Chronolegionaire, just want to say thanks for adding comparability with my mod, A Warrior's Drink!  I know you added it a while ago.  The Great Khan would be most pleased.

HanleyS

Could you potentially test out the test build I posted in the mod thread on the vintage story discord and let me know if that version resolves it for you? (the test version is built for 1.21 just as a disclaimer)

traugdor I've been using that exact version on 1.20.12, and the save always starts relatively fine, but a couple of hours and playthroughs in the mod cause buffering issues from lagspikes that don't seem to go away until the mod itself is removed.

HanleyS I have also noticed some issues but they went away with 2.1.2 when I played in 1.20.12.

ChimMAG Amarillo ZonkPJ Maxter1o2 Snows The 2.2.0 is for 1.21.0-pre1. It will be incompatible with 1.20.11 and 1.20.12.

This mod needs optimising. Lag spikes originate from this mod and disappear when it is disabled. 

Same error. Doesn't work in 1.20

If you are having issues on 2.2.0, it is probably because you are using the wrong game version.

Check your game version and the mod game version and stop clicking the first download button you see, it will save you a lot of problems

Maxter1o2 same error :s

2.2.0 Throws an error in the server log which inreturn stops the mod from working but 2.1.2 loads and works fine.

ChimMAG ZonkPJ

I make it work again returning to 2.1.2 too, but It required to delete the mod config file. I think when updating to 2.2.0 it creates a conflict between config files..

The 2.2.0 update also made the bar dissapear and the mechanic stop working, but when i got back to 2.1.2 it started working again...

I am experiencing the same than ChimMAG I updated the mod to 2.2.0 and I lost the mod stoped working, the thirst bar is gone and the blocks and mechanics too. I even returned to previous version of the mod and now it does not work anymore. Also I tested on single player and it is not working neither. Maybe there is a client side config that could be corrupted because of this??

I've been profiling the memory usage on my mod build and I've found a significant load from your mod. Please try optimizing this location. It will greatly speed up the loading of the location and reduce memory usage.

Spoiler!

Shanaxyle Have considered that wine and by extension all alcohols will have less hydration because alcohol by nature is dehydrating? Ethanol is hydrophilic, meaning it bonds to water and makes it less effective. But I agree that Fine wine should have less hydration than strong wine.

Updated the mod to the latest version (2.2.0) and I lost the hydration indicator. Then I updated the version of the game itself from 1.20.11 to 1.20.12 - nothing has changed. The /moddb list command indicates that the mod is loaded. The geological hammer also does not work, and its dehydration is not displayed in the description of the food.

Please compatybility by new mod "Vigor" Hud Bar is the same pleace. Very good idea by mod Vigor is more realistic but this mod is a legend mod.

Seeing as how this is taking off, i'll be adding compatibility to Immersive Phototrophy next time I start working on it.
Photosynthesis is just breaking of water into hydrocarbons: the process will consume water if this mod is installed.

Theres a small issue with the hydration values of wine and spirits in expanded foods, I'll use black currant wine for example

Black currant juice restores 800 hydration per litre. this seems like a very fair, almost excessive amount. i would suggest reducing this to 600, but its perfectly functional as it is
black currant wine resores 400 - this is roughhly as expected. the value is a bit low but manageable. idealy it should be closer to 600 for game balance purposes, in my opinion, particularaly because juices restore around 800. if juices restored 600, it would be far more reasonable at 400
strong black currant wine restores 150 per litere. this is a MASSIVE jump in saturation, which causes wine to only be about 1/7th as valuable as juice. balance wise, strong black currant wine should be slighthly more or less effective, not half as effective.
fine black currant wine restore 160 per litre. this makes absolutely no sense. if wine looses 50% hydration with aging, why does it suddenly gain an extra 7% effectiveness suddenly withh age?

When refined, the values only get stranger and more nonsensical
Black currant brandy has a hydration value of 210. this makes no sense, as brandy is fundementally more alcoholic than wine. this goes directly against the seeming philosophy of the mod's balance, where highher alcohol by volue = less hydrating
an aged brandy is identical in terms of hydration to a strong wine, which means the entire process of making brandy is a completely wasted effort and resource sink, assuming you drink it after it ages.
Vintage wine is slightly better than aged wine, but still falls into the same issue of being going against the idea that a stronger alohol heals less saturation.

I plan to fix this myself for my own world&server, to try and make it make a bit more sense and follow a more cohesive, mathematically balanced internal logic. if you'd like i would gladly give you my updated version of config once i finish tweaking, if you agree withh my observations and wish to change the default values packed with the mod itself

edit: I've done some work on the config, and for whatever reason it appears as though non of my changes are actually applying in game. i'm unsure if im doing something wrong or if the config isn't loading properly, however i've gotten no errors in my console so im kind of lost

Hello, 
First of all, thanks for the mod!
Secondly, how do I drink water from ponds at the start of a new game? Im dying of thirst on loop since I havent found any clay yet :(

Well recipes not working on server

Involved Harmony IDs: com.jakecool19.efrecipes.cookingoverhaul, extrainfo
System.ArgumentException: Attempted to resolve the recipe ingredient wildcard Block vanvar:woodenaxle-* but there are no such items/blocks!
at Vintagestory.API.Client.SlideshowGridRecipeTextComponent..ctor(ICoreClientAPI capi, GridRecipe[] gridrecipes, Double size, EnumFloat floatType, Action`1 onStackClicked, ItemStack[] allStacks) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\Richtext\SlideshowGridRecipeTextComponent.cs:line 111
at Vintagestory.GameContent.CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.addCreatedByInfo(ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack[] allStacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor, ItemStack stack, List`1 components, Single marginTop, Boolean haveText) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.cs:line 1292
at Vintagestory.GameContent.CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo.GetHandbookInfo_Patch2(CollectibleBehaviorHandbookTextAndExtraInfo this, ItemSlot inSlot, ICoreClientAPI capi, ItemStack[] allStacks, ActionConsumable`1 openDetailPageFor)
at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.initDetailGui() in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 208
at Vintagestory.GameContent.GuiDialogHandbook.OpenDetailPageFor(String pageCode) in VSSurvivalMod\Systems\Handbook\Gui\GuiDialogHandbook.cs:line 314
at Vintagestory.API.Client.SlideshowItemstackTextComponent.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\Richtext\SlideshowItemstackTextComponent.cs:line 229
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiElementRichtext.OnMouseDownOnElement(ICoreClientAPI api, MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Elements\Impl\Interactive\Text\GuiElementRichtext.cs:line 525
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiComposer.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent mouseArgs) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\GuiComposer.cs:line 459
at Vintagestory.API.Client.GuiDialog.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryApi\Client\UI\Dialog\GuiDialog.cs:line 559
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.GuiManager.OnMouseDown(MouseEvent args) in VintagestoryLib\Client\Systems\Gui\GuiManager.cs:line 390
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientMain.UpdateMouseButtonState(EnumMouseButton button, Boolean down) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientMain.cs:line 1978
at Vintagestory.Client.HotkeyManager.TriggerHotKey(KeyEvent keyEventargs, IWorldAccessor world, IPlayer player, Boolean allowCharacterControls, Boolean isGlobal, Boolean fallBack, Boolean keyup) in VintagestoryLib\Client\HotkeyManager.cs:line 431
at Vintagestory.Client.NoObf.ClientPlatformWindows.Mouse_ButtonDown(MouseButtonEventArgs e) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\Input.cs:line 198
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.MouseButtonCallback(Window* window, MouseButton button, InputAction action, KeyModifiers mods)
--- End of stack trace from previous location ---
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.NativeWindow.RethrowCallbackExceptionsIfNeeded()
at OpenTK.Windowing.Desktop.GameWindow.Run()
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.Start(ClientProgramArgs args, String[] rawArgs) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 334
at Vintagestory.Client.ClientProgram.<>c__DisplayClass10_0.<.ctor>b__1() in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientProgram.cs:line 130
at Vintagestory.ClientNative.CrashReporter.Start(ThreadStart start) in VintagestoryLib\Client\ClientPlatform\ClientNative\CrashReporter.cs:line 93

Cool mod, although the lack of options for transporting clean drinking water while traveling is fairly tedious. Jugs ain't really a good option, something like a canteen and/or waterskin is sorely needed. 

Is there a config option to modify the amount of thirst different water sources give? I want to make wells more a of a necessity as right now my group still scoops up water from the farmlands like little trogladytes, which makes them hungry and thus wastes food as they cannot walk 20 blocks to the well.

Also, is there any way/are there any mods that make crops use up water dynamically and require fresh springs/water sources? Would be nice to see civilization develop around lakes/rivers because water is only renewable there.

Thanks!

Compatible with Alchemistry?

This mod, in my opinion, must be integrated into the game's base version. The game already provides players with plenty of content and motivation to combat the cold (root cellars, greenhouses, warm clothing, campfires, etc.). However, at the moment, the player has absolutely no content, and especially no motivation, to protect themselves from the heat. Thirst, and its increase with temperature, along with the challenges of obtaining and storing drinking water, are an excellent solution to this issue

KrystianMajster Latest version should fix the issue with disappearing well water. Please ping me in the Vintage Story discord if it doesn't 

oddly enough when using the pewter mod it counts it as a water block.

KrystianMajster that was Chrono's private server. The Official Vintage Story Discord is now suitable until such a time as I deem it worthwhile to make a dedicated discord. 

Nightingale33 How to enter your discord? link in the mod description doesn't work

@Chronolegionaire

Do we need to boil well water or is it considered safe? 

I'm assuming we don't need to, as I've not been able to get the pot to boil well water, so, assuming not necessary to boil well water?

It would also seem that the fresh well water is not compatible with In Dappled Groves/Under Tangled Boughs; you cannot use the water from HoD to create the bread doughs from that mod sadly.

My well shaft doesn't seem to fill with water either. Is it because I dug it in creative mode? Or am I just too far from an aquifer - I'm only about 50-100 ish blocks from the nearest one, which is why too far underground to create a useable well. 

KrystianMajster I'll have a look and see if I can fix it. Also do feel free to ping me in Discord, I spotted this off your Reddit post. 

nomashawn ConfigLib is the best option! It has great integration with it. 

Chronolegionaire I have a problem where the water level in the well resets after loading the world. Is there any option to fix the problem with the water level resetting in the well?

wow, ive been looking for smth just like this! how do I config? :D

It seemed to me that when an incomplete portion remains in the bowl (for example, 10-30% of the portion), then when it is consumed, hydration decreases as from a full portion.

Out of curiosity, does making something like soup with plain water sap nutrition from the end product, compared to cooking with something like distilled water?

So how do I make a well, and how do I make sure that the well is working? If you just dig down seven squares and create a well, will it work?

I have vanilla variants and its preq recipe patcher, and wildcraft trees, when i go to make a winch it wont let me make one out of normal wood but will out of the wildcraft trees planks. I dont see anything in the configs that would cause this and all of them are up to date. Any ideals what could cause this?

Shion

Nope, it does not touch health at all

Esjitu

The heat mechanics only interact with thirst, as of right now there are no non-thirst related heat mechanics.

Seventythird

Normal water source blocks are considered natural spawning water and so are "unclean" in that they are not safe sources of drinking water. Muddy water is its own new block that will spawn when you dig a shallow surface wellspring and let it fill with water (needs to be within 5 blocks of natural water)

Just wanting to check what the difference between aquifer water and water source blocks is. Before installing this I had wells with just a single water source block in the well that I drew water from. With this mod installed is there a distinction between these water sources and just letting the well fill with water "naturally"?

Not sure what category source blocks (muddy water) are in for the well water/rainwater etc list:

How viable is it to play this mod with thirst disabled but keeping the heat mechanics? It bugs me that vanilla has cold weather survival but not hot but the thirst might be more hardcore than I'm looking for right now. I know it can be disabled in the config but should I disable or tweak anything else for this sort of playstyle? 

Does this mod do anything with max health?

Prawn Once you boil the water (mine did not work till I put 3L of water in the pot), you then get an empty jug, pick it up, hover it over the boiled water and click on the water icon. It will fill the jug up (jugs can hold 3L water).

Hello, I need some help.

I can't figure out how to take out the boiled water after cooking it in a cooking pot.

I've tried using a bucket, a bowl, a jug. I've tried removing the cooking pot - this only loses the water.

Please help :(

Oh, that's great. And I haven't tested salt water - I didn't have a game reason.
Yes, if I'm not mistaken, now in the game pies do not use the hydration parameter.
And it works really well with stews/soups - the player has to choose between more calories or less, but with good hydration. It gives more game variety.

ChimMAG

Looked through your changes and they seem great, I'll get these values added into the default config generation. The only ones I don't think I'll incorporate are the water variant changes (salt water, muddy water, etc.) just because those I actually did derive from some pretty extensive play testing so I'll likely just leave that up to users to change if they don't agree with the values.

What is the most liquid you can carry without encumberance? is it 4 bowls and 1 jug? do different clay jugs count towards encumberance or does it just count it on a per container basis?

At one point, I mentioned that the hydration values of food were unbalanced — most foods either add or subtract around 0.3% of the hydration bar, which in practice has almost no effect in the game. You replied that you didn’t have time to balance it, and that if I came up with a proper config, I was welcome to share it. So, I did — and I tested it too.

Right away, I’ll say that I didn’t touch any mods I don’t have installed. Maybe someone else will add to it later. But now, eating food actually has a noticeable impact — both in terms of increasing hydration (for example, from berries) and increasing thirst (for example, from meat).

That would just be some light polishing, not full rebalance of the values.

Added description of config options to the mod description

v2.1.0

Drink check ray trace no longer runs on server side to avoid null issues

Well Spring now keeps track of its last state so that it knows how much water it should have made while unloaded. (likely what was causing wellsprings to not make the listed amount of water volume per day)

Well Spring info on winch now lang driven. 

Well Spring info now includes current total liters in well and max liters (replacing max blocks)

Fixed max cooling in item description not showing in the same line as max warmth.

Added missing American Frontiersman clothing compatibility

Updated French Translation (thank you! Wailwolf )

Hi Chronolegionaire, here is a french translation updated for your mod. Thanks for it ! 💧🌞

Just checking, does anyone know if there are compatibility issues between HoD and Decor Bazzar?

Also any chance to get the setting descriptions written here? As the config menu is to small to be able to actually read a lot of the explanations what a setting does :)

Btw do I have to build all 8 surrounding blocks of my well shaft with bricks or would it also have been enough to only do the 4 cardinal adjacent ones?

as it sais 21l/day and 10 block retention but after about 6liters taken out its dry 0.o

Is it possible the Mod does not work well when you change the amount of days in a month?

Updated to the newest version.

Problem still persists. With the Vanilla Pot just cooks it normally (residue covered or not. First boil makes it residue covered. Kinda strange that "drinking water" is not considered food but who knows what muck is in the water huh? ^^)

HaraiseTenshi
As of a couple versions ago, that incompatibility was fixed. Make sure you're using the latest version of HoD

It seems you need a clean pot to boil water which is then turned into a residue covered one that no longer makes boiled water... the progessbar finishes and then starts from the beginning with the water not changed to boiled water.
also is it not possible to just boil a whole pot but only 1 slot every time?

okay seems to only happen with the "Art of Cooking" pot and not the vanilla one so maybe some kind of mod error on their end?

xCoiotex

I just realized but you said you are on 1.20.4. HoD is not compatible with any 1.20.x version except for 1.20.7 and later as of v2.0.17 as noted in the patchnotes. This is due to a change in vintage story 1.20.7 that broke HoD and I can't support previous versions without splitting the code base which I don't have time for.

xCoiotex

I appreciate you being dilligent and reporting issues you're running into but I'd really prefer bug reports in discord instead of on the mod page as noted in the mod description. That being said, I can't reproduce that with just HoD installed, you likely have another mod installed that is conflicting with the description edits from HoD.

Hello, i'm using 2.0.18 in 1.20.4 version and can't see the cooling text in clothings, they're hidden, but still works

ty for the update!

v2.0.18

Added Cooling support for Dressed To Kill

Fixed Drinking from Primitive Survival Furrows

LucidaRosetta

You have to turn it back on the HoD config, I patch it out of the game because it gives me and some other people motion sickness and makes drinking anything alcoholic unplayable. 

 cant seem to get drunk, no matter how much wine i drink i dont get any of the drunken affects, is it just wine is too weak for seraphs now? or do i need a higher alchoholic drink to get drunk now...? 

v2.0.17

Compatibility with Vintage Story 1.20.7 (NOTE No longer backwards with compatible with older 1.20.x versions)

Fix entire Bucket stack filling with well water when using a stack of buckets. No properly only fills the first bucket in the stack.

Fix Muddy Well Water filling instantly to 9 liters when creating first water block if diagonally adjacent to other water blocks.

Fix well spring Water placement in edge cases

Updates to ru translation

Soup doesn't appear to be perishable now? but water is.

In 1.20.7 it is CTRL+ Right Click to drink, not Shift. At least on my game. There is a small + sign with a circle that fills in while drinking. I did not change any settings, or key mapping.

getting lots of messages like that : 

[Warning] Error in ItemWearableGetHeldItemInfoPatch: System.Reflection.TargetParameterCountException: Parameter count mismatch.
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Reflection.MethodBase.Invoke(Object obj, Object[] parameters)
at HydrateOrDiedrate.patches.ItemWearableGetHeldItemInfoPatch.Postfix(ItemSlot inSlot, StringBuilder dsc, IWorldAccessor world, Boolean withDebugInfo) in C:\Users\bryan\RiderProjects\HydrateOrDiedrate\HydrateOrDiedrate\src\Hot Weather\Patches\ItemWearableGetInfoPatch.cs:line 27

xCoiotex

That is intentional behavior, liquid encumbrance only triggers if a single slot has more than 4 liters by default.

(bug report) you don't get speed penalty when carrying different liquids in different containers in inventory, like 4 liters of honey in 4 bowls and 3 liters of rainwater in jug

ChimMAG

You can actually change any of the hydration values to whatever you'd like by editing the add item hydration config. That being said, most of the values are mostly arbitrary and had very little thought that went into it when I first put the default values together. If you, (or anyone else really) wants to give it a good balance/logic pass to edit the values and send me the config I can take a look and see about updating the default to match so that theres some more thought behind the numbers. I just don't have the time to do balancing like that on my own.

I see...

At this point, pies have no hydration value. Also, cider/wine seemed to me to have too low hydration values compared to juice (well, or juice has too high), although it seems logical that they shouldn't differ that much. Berries also add very little hydration (noticeably less than 1% of the maximum), although in reality fruit is almost always quite saturated with moisture. But high-fat foods (fried meat), it seems to me, could have a stronger effect on thirst.
I've updated the language file (actually I wrote a script that shows me which lines are missing in the translation and which are no longer in use for ease of finding changes).

ChimMAG

This is a result of the way vanilla handles liquid only pot recipes. This is not something I'm willing to fix because of compatibility concerns with other mods that touch the cooking pot. I only allowed water in multiple slots for the recipe because people kept trying to do that and would complain they couldn't boil water.

You can put 4x5 liters of water (two buckets) in the pot, but after boiling there will be only 5 liters of water. It seems to me that this is illogical.

Mollycoddle

I'm not aware of any incompatibilities, the only one I've run into has been xskills, but Xandu and I got together and fixed that awhile ago. I updated the invite link to the discord btw. If you want to send me your server-main.log I can try to see if I can reproduce and resolve the conflict.

Hey sorry to bother here, but the invite to your mod workshop discord is expired, so I don't really have any other options. I'm having an issue where the mode for well digging doesn't show up at all on the pickaxe; I think it's been replaced in a mod incompatibility but I can't figure out which mod. Are there any that are known to do this?

v2.0.16

Hotfix: muddy water generation was broken by accident and surface level well springs were creating floods of water instead single muddy water blocks.

colebucket1982

Thank you! I don't remember what mod the aged variants are from, but I think they will just carry over the same hydration. Though they will give a better hydration pause boost if they are more alcoholic. 

GongoDada

No one has made any yet, if they do I'll feature it on this page. There is a handbook entry for well instructions though.

xCoiotex

I don't think that one is fixable, theres not a direct way I can iterate over the inventory of the carried blocks since the inventories technically don't exist while in the carried state. That ones unfortunately going to have to be stopped with good old fashioned self control.

v2.0.15

Further performance refactors/improvements

Switched back to single threaded processing for rain collectors and aquifer generation, no noticeable gains on my machine from single to multithreaded processing, so single threaded will be better as it will work better on older cpus.

Fix conflicting water boil recipe with xskill desalinate recipe

Winches will now display well spring output rate and current max depth. (configurable)

Removed ClearAquiferData command as it was non functional and was an artifact from the original aquifer generation method.

Wellspring output rebalanced and normalized to a slightly less arbitray calculation. Now "Heavy" rated aquifer with a perfect rating will output 70 liters a day scaling down to 1 liter a day for "Very Poor" aquifer with a minimal rating.

Fixed rain collecting on ground storable items compounding their rain collection "surface areas" resulting in increased speed over a single block with a surface area of 1.

Added block links to handbook entry for well instructions to show exactly what blocks can be used for upgrading a well shaft.

Added Config Options

"ShowAquiferProspectingDataOnMap": true,

"WinchOutputInfo": true

11/10 worth it just for the value it gives to alcohol. I was so disappointed when I tried wine for the first time, and had just made 5 barrels of it. Installed this mod, and my wine immediately becomes insanely valuable. I'm wondering/hoping if/that fine wine and the like has a worthwhile buff over wine as well :)

hi, is there a video tutorial for searching water and build well?

well, you can tecnically deny the speed penalty, if you put 8 buckets with water inside a bark chest from in dappled groves mod and carry it on your back with carryon, lmao

THIS MOD SUCKS MAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN DRINK THE SULFURIC ACID, MAN!!. LET US DRINK THE SULFURIC ACID, MAN!. i don't care if it kills me...

Damn. I wanted to move my well spring from its temp location to where I wanted to build my proper well. But I just learned, after breaking the old one, that there is no aquifer anymore... :(

Edit: Moved it to a neighboring chunk that still has one where I rebuilt the shaft I wanted to use originally, but it does not seem to fill it up at all.

Noop

Just pick up the container with your mouse and right click the liquid to scoop it out of the pot. This is vanilla weirdness unfortunately so its not something I can fix without causing a lot of incompatibilities with other mods. As for the shovel, it won't show the tool tip but you can just hit f to switch tool mode on it regardless. If it doesn't show up still, then a mod is incompatible and overwriting shovel behavior.

DarkThoughts

Unfortunately no, all recipes have to be manually patched and/or recreated to use the new water to work.

I can boil water, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get it out of the pot to drink. Neither a jug nor a bowl will do it.

Also the new tool mode that's supposed to also be on the shovel doesn't appear to exist.

Is there something akin to Minecraft's OreDictionary yet, that allows well water to be used interchangeably with regular water for things like cooking or barrel recipes?

v2.0.14

Fix winch lang usage not referencing lang file correctly

Fix prospecting map marker inconsistency due to map marker using surface level chunk position rather than position at current depth resulting in prospecting read out for aquifers not matching the map marker that got generated

Rain collecting blocks now scale their collection speed based on their sky facing collision box, i.e. blocks with smaller collision boxes will collect rain at different rates. Thank you TheInsanityGod for the idea of using collision box to calculate this!

Rain collection rate by default scales as closely to real life rain fall rates as I can possibly get with Vintage Storys rain data scaling which is 0-1 where I assumed 0.1 is a very light sprinkle and 1 was a very heavy rain. This is based on Vintage Story blocks having 1 square meter faces. 

It's not a propper bug, but you can put 4 bowls in the ground and they're 4x times faster than a barrel to catch water, should be nerfed, and a barrel should atleast catch twice as much as before (bucket should also have a increase over bowls)

v2.0.13

Fix fluid ray cast detection that got slightly broken in update (still backwards compatible with older vs versions)
More null safety checks in fluid detection just in case.
Aquifer Generation now uses about 10x less resources (rough estimate, average cpu usage on aquifer generation load went from ~9% to <1% during peak generation on my machine), now hooks into world gen data to collect data as blocks are generated rather than counting and calculating after the fact. This will not work on pregenerated chunks though, so it will still fall back to counting if a chunk has already been generated but doesn't contain aquifer data i.e. adding the mod fresh to a new save will still work as it will fall back to the older more expensive method. This however will still revert to the new cheaper method once all preexisting chunks have had their aquifer data set. With this change, from cpu and memory profiling HoD is in total using negligible amounts of cpu usage for all its systems and roughly 100-150 extra mb of ram in total compared to vanilla.
Liquid Encumbrance now also tracks items held in mouse pointer

Since the 1.20.5 update, you cannot drink water within 3 blocks of water.

Oh okay then, I had to ask, so it must be xskills, but xandu said it's game vanilla issue

v2.0.11

Potential fix for water interaction handler null errors
Fix keg and tun rot duplication

xCoiotex

HoD doesn't touch hunger logic at all.

Hi, is this bug from your mod? It`s not just visual, it also makes not hungry, i`m just using your mod and xskills that alters hungerness, also it swiches between image 2 and 3 every 1 second, giving a tiny stutter, and also reseting the current animation being played...

Edit: there's another bug that if you hold a ten litres of water in a bucket and click to hold with the mouse and just drag and walk, you don't get the speed penalty

v2.0.10

Get and Set aquifer rating commands to get/set aquifer in the chunk you are currently standing in /getaquifer and /setaquifer 0-100 
ACA Sauce Pan/cauldron boiling water support patch
Core of Arts Xskills patch compat
Update ru translation
Fix thirst getting set to default max amount upon rejoining a world/loading singleplayer when it is higher than default max.

Is there any way using commands or other methods to induce an quifer in a specific spot that did not generate one naturally?

I have updated the language file to the latest version. Thanks a lot, everything is fine now!!!

v2.0.9

Full localisation, every string that was previously hardcoded in english has been moved to a lang localisation. 

Liquids no longer say the vanilla "When Eaten" text and will now properly say "When Drunk".

Core of Art pot compatibility: Boiling water in Core of Art overhauled pots will no longer convert the pot to a dirty version.

Russian localisation: Thank you ChimMAG!!

right, i misread the saturation stat instead, like an idiot

ChimMAG

I'll get those converted to lang entries instead of hard coding in english for the next version. Thanks for the translation!

Jowi

Actually cooking with the better water does have some utility in that the resulting meal will carry over the improved hydration if it has it.

cool that you fixed that so soon. technically you dont need to cook with anything other than normal water, as i found out in my testing, (in which i found the soup glitch as well), i mean why waste wellwater if its the same. but still good fix just in case

Russian-language translation. Unfortunately, the language files do not contain all the phrases that are displayed in the game. In particular, they do not contain phrases about food hydration, messages about buried minerals from the geological hammer and other phrases. These are quite important phrases, but they are not in the language files.

v2.0.8

Fix soup meal rendering when using HoD added water types

Awesome! thank you for the update 😄

hey i just want to report that soups made with any of this mods special waters, be it boiled, rain- or wellwater, are invisible in the pot and bowl compared to the ones made with vanilla water.

i assume because the game doesnt recognize the mods liquids when visually "mixing" the ingredients, perhaps

v2.0.7

Well winch will work with any liquid container now including temporal containers buckets. (Rendering will probably be weird and probably floating for anything thats not a bucket)

Could you add compatibility with the Temporal bucket from Temporal containers? Or rather is there a more practical way to get alot of water out of my well at once with whats already in the mod?

v2.0.6

Hydration support for new wildcraft Fruits and Nuts Lemonade

ChimMAG

You are correct!

goodsoohe

Thank you!

ChimMAG

Aquifers are not actual physical underground water streams & deposits, if that's what you're asking. They're just values simulated in the background.

As I understand it, the mod doesn't change the world generation, meaning it can be added to an already created world without consequences or features?

Thank you for creating and continuously updating this amazing mod. This is exactly what I wanted in this game. I love it

v2.0.5

Performance optimizations in 3d aquifer generation

v2.0.4

Map marker that is auto generated when density prospecting will now include aquifer information.

Capped Hydration Loss Delay from drinking to max 10 minutes (no food should ever reach this naturally) to help combat a bug that I'm having difficulty tracking down that is causing the delay to randomly get spiked to a large number.

v2.0.3

Fix warmth display to scale correctly with item durability (actual value unchanged)

That just reminded me: Is it possible to put the aquifer info into the prospecting info that's logged on the map to keep track of them?

v2.0.2

New Config Option: AquiferDataOnProspectingNodeMode

When set to true, Node Mode will output aquifer information instead of density search mode.

me using 1.9.9 and emptying like 3 buckets of water to quench my thirst and nothing happening, then i came here and see two new updates already

on changelog of 2.01

"hotfix" - I broke hydration

lmao, well i hope i can drink 3 buckets now

Chronolegionaire

The server does have theradius mode active, yes (I'm a md on the server Cuddly_Khan is on lol, I was actually gonna come ask this today)

Can water be boiled so it doesnt hurt your hunger sat?  I cant figure out how to do it lol. 

Marlim

Yep!

Do the new 3d aquifers work on already loaded worlds?

Chronolegionaire

Cuddly_Khan

I had actually initally wanted to do a custom tool mode, but I discovered in the process that it would make HoD incompatible with every other mod that touches prospecting picks as well. Does the server you play on still have the other mode? I could look into attaching it to that one based on a config option.

v2.0.1

HotFix: I broke hydration

Liquids no longer give any thirst after the last update (the bar still ticks down lol).

Could you make the aquifer prospecting mode independent of the mineral prospecting mode? I'm on a server that has density search mode disabled, making it very difficult finding aquifers.

I would ask if this is safe to update, but you said it is, and I hope it is, I've finally got a very good world gen with limestone, bauxite, and peridotite near me and 3 traders in one camp near my new base. I mean this is jackpot gaming experience now.

Thank you, this is a great mod!

v1.9.9
3D Aquifer Initial refactor: Aquifers generate in 3d now and at variable depths (depth scaling config option removed).
Prospecting Hints: When prospecting you will get a directional hint to the nearest aquifer that is stronger than your current one. Distance is configurable.
Mod System Refactor: Back end refactor and reorganization. Should not make any noticeable difference to users.
Config Load Refactor: Config loading and saving has been refactored and no longer requires a network sync, making it more reliable.
More NaN safety: Added more checks to ensure NaN safety when calculating thirst rate.
New Config Option WaterPerish: Set to false to remove water perish entirely
(This is safe to update to in existing saves and pregenerated 2d aquifers however existing wells may no longer have the same aquifer strength)

DarkThoughts

Yep you are correct, you only need 40, the well only cares about the part that is retaining water, the rest of the shaft can be made of anything.

I guess you only need max 40 ashlar blocks then? Since it caps out at 10? Or 44 if you need to enclose the well block itself too? The material for the remaining blocks between the well and the surface shouldn't matter, right?

unclebear

Yes, its safe for existing worlds

DarkThoughts

I just went off the code name in game. Should be full size stone ashlar bricks.

Wahazar

Pick up container with your mouse pointer in your inventory and right click the water in the pots inventory while its still on the fire. The weirdness is a vanilla quirk of making liquids with a pot recipe.

Rudwark

You're the first to report a bug like this, but if it keeps reoccuring I would really love to get more info on my discord or the HoD thread in the vintage story mods discord.

I'm having a strange bug with the keg. While the keg is present, after filling or emptying a bucket three times, doing anything (milking animals, filling keg, getting water from pond), the game freezes on a black screen. Removing the keg stopped the crashes. I play with a lot of mods but the only conflicts I can think of would be with DanaTweaks (rainwater collecting), but I have that disabled. Maybe Better Moisture or ACA/EF idk. This bug has been present for the last few versions of HoD, as far as I know. If anyone else has this bug I will do some more testing.

How to drink boiled water? Neither bowl or jug doesn't interact with pot. Taking pot from firepit will spill the water.

When it says "stone bricks", do you mean full sized ashlar blocks? What about the various variants? It's kinda unclear what blocks can be used to line the shafts with.

Can this be added mid-save, or does it need to be added to a new world?

SeniLiX

That is a vanilla result of outputting a liquid in a pot recipe. However I do patch that to not do that on HoD water recipes. If its still doing it, its probably a mod incompatibility. Can I have you send me your server-main.log in the discord? (or the mod thread on the vintage story discord). I haven't been able to track this one down, and having a mod list where it occurs would be helpful.

Question: Sometimes when boiling water in a cooking pot, I end up with a residue covered pot. Is this a feature of this mod or something else?

Alindrome

A cistern would be cool, but I think there would be too many variables to keep track of for detecting the construction of one that it would be really difficult to implement in a way that works well. Even getting the water in well shafts to be finite was fairly complex and thats just a single vertical column a large multi block pool of water would be really tricky.

I do like the idea of some sort of visual marker and I am actually exploring that idea now, but I am cautious to touch world gen as it makes it non compatible with existing worlds. (right now aquifers generate on their own outside of world gen which makes them plug and play with any world)

And as for the multiblock structure for wells, I had actually done that as a protoype initially but it felt too static and not something to actually engage with, I think the aquifer system (if expanded) and with some sort of visual marker is going to be the way to go. (I also invested a lot of dev time creating the aquifer system so I don't want to ditch it now lol)

Love the ideas though, would love more people to post on my workshop discord to brain storm more additions and/or new mod ideas.

Ah, I see. I thought they were generated more like 3d blobs, kinda like temporal stability but more patchy.

Ooh, spitballing ideas time:

• You could add a cistern for collecting rainwater runoff from rooves  -- above-ground it might look the same as a well, but underneath you just dig a much shallower, wider pit. Maybe the cistern would only work if placed within a few blocks of non-thatch roof tiles, or you could craft a piece of wooden guttering that you can lean against your house to feed it (like a bamboo water spout)
• I'm not sure how your aquifer generation works, but if it's in small patches then you could indicate there's one above-ground by adding to the terrain above ground -- add a new soil type like bogged soil, or a seep
• Or the most simple change to wells (this is how I thought you'd do it in the first place), forget actually generating aquifers -- just make wells a more simple multiblock structure. Just dig X blocks beneath a well structure you've placed and it'll generate a source block of water at the bottom and tell you you're done. You could make your proPick mode tell you how many blocks deep you'd need to go to hit water for a well in that chunk -- so if it's too deep players can look for readings closer to the surface, but won't be totally screwed if they can't find a place.

I'm currently working on a prototype for 3d generated aquifers but performance issues are a concern for calculating the data which is why they currently generate in 2d space and scale rating based on depth. It looks promising so far but no eta on a release. But as of right now your options are going to be either extreme, being able to dig a full strength aquifer at any depth (still have to find a x/z chunk that has a strong aquifer), or having depth play a role. As I said though I would love any ideas if you think of anything that might improve it.

What exactly does the setting do though? Make aquifiers spawn at random heights? Make the height level completely irrelevant? The latter would be basically the other extreme. Wells are neither just surface level (with some primitive exceptions that are already covered) nor are they going down to the mantle.

Also I do encourage you to try it with depth scaling turned off.

DarkThoughts

I'm absolutely open to suggestions if you have ideas to improve it and/or make the mechanic more engaging. 

I'm still not sure how I feel about the wells.

If they have to be found this deep it's hard to even prospect for them, because I'd need to dig a very deep shaft in the first place in plenty of locations. But even if I find one, then I'd likely have already settled somewhere else, long before I reached the metal ages to do this. And even if I somehow have one right beneath my base, I would then still have to slowly lower & raise a bucket for like ~150 blocks every time I want to get some fresh water? I feel at that point I might as well just drink the puddle water and eat a couple of things right after. It just does not seem to be worth the excessive time and effort that you have to spend on it.

Unless I'm completely missing something here?

CringefinderGen

Yep!

PookieBunny

Unfortunately not with the way I currently do config setup. It has also been argued that it would be unbalanced in a pvp server if some people had to deal with it and others didn't, which I can kind of see.

DarkThoughts

Added a config option to swap it to sprint instead of sneak 

LeKing

As DarkThoughts pointed out, there is currently not a way to get any early water that doesn't involve a fresh water source block, or rain. If you got a bad dice roll on not getting any fresh water at all you may just need to generate a new world. 

can this be added mid-save?

v1.9.8
Fix Winch renderer to use multitexture atlas, atlas size no longer needs to be increased to avoid texture bugs
Normalize Hydration Loss Delay Config option. Now it is a multiplier that makes sense, default to 1
Initial implementation of Nats Achievements Mod, liquid drinking achievements are not currently functional
Combat Overhaul Compatibility (hod specific animations are still broken but functionally everything works)
Added hydration loss delay tracking to character C menu to avoid confusion if your thirst is not going down
New commands to get and set hydration loss delay thanks to Zach2039!
New Config option to switch source block drinking to sprint right click instead of sneak for ease of use with CarryOn
Primitive Technology furrows can now be drunk from

Chronolegionaire

Odd request, but would it be possible to swap the drunk sway configuration to client side rather than server controlled?