The Basics

i would love to see that world-replacement function, though i don't see why it couldn't be in this mod

Grandfather That might be best suited as an entirely different mod. Although admittedlty,this is already a bit of a kitchen sink mod.. It's been on my radar to split off things like the TPA system into their own independent mods.

That being said, either way, I'll put it in my backlog! Should be a simple enough feature.

Any chance of implimenting a feature that reads certain words and replaces them with other input?
That could be used as a profanity filter, or to replace certain swear words with lore appropriate ones.

AlteOgre At least that's progress! 😅 Sorry you've been having issues - I'm very curious about the stack trace from those crashes but hey, happy it's fixed now.

As for the global chat, that's very weird! The only config that should affect that is `UseGeneralChannelAsProximityChat`, which defaults to `false` - this setting effectively changes the General chat tab into Proximity chat.

In what way is global chat disabled? Are players still able to go to the General chat tab? Do messages just not appear?

There are a couple of other config values that affect how chat works that might be worth tinkering with:

`ProximityChatAsDefault` (default false) - Moves players to the proximity chat tab upon first login to the server

`PreserveDefaultChatChoice` (default true) - Moves players to their previous chat tab upon logging back in

`PreventProximityChannelSwitching` (default true) - Prevents players chat from automatically switching tabs when a new message comes in from a different channel, if they're in the Proximity tab.

You might consider deleting your ModConfig file so it regenerates fresh. Feel free to reach out on discord (basic_bit) if you want to do any troubleshooting together.

BASIC
When I updated from 5.0.1 to 5.2.2 on our 1.20.12 server, global chat was disabled. I couldn't find any clue as to why that was, but reverting the update fixed it.
Any idea what may have caused this? We don't have any other mods affecting game/server chat.

Note that I had tried to update to other versions of TheBasics earlier and with all of the other versions we got client crashes upon logging in on the server. At least v5.2.2 didn't cause client crashes upon logging in ...

WatermelonFrogy Thank you for reporting this, and sorry for the oversight! v5.2.2 is out with the fix; thanks to Lantalia for submitting the fix PR!

Hi it seems nicknames are broken in the new update, this is the error when you run any /nick or /setnick commands :(

Diakonus I've implemented this as of v5.2.0 - Sign language is now baked into the language system using `:sign`, and removed from the chat mode system (yell,say,whisper).

Kasel This should be fixed now as well!

GlooMeGlo I'll definitely look into this - I've been working on a feature to show RP chat in the chat bubbles above players heads, so this goes hand-in-hand with that.

Hexedian You can currently only disable this server side, but I've added a feature as of v5.2.0 to prevent switching chat tabs on new messages

Amarillo This should be fixed as of v5.2.0 - the issue had to do with not marking the nametag WatchedAttribute as "dirty", so it wasn't reliably getting synced with clients

Thanks for your patience everybody! Let me know if you have any other issues or feature requests <3

Would be possible to add the language feature to Sign language mode?
On an rp server we have some people that rp mute characters, and having a dummy sign language that we could give to these characters would allow to better represent sign as something that not everyone knows and allow for rping of learning sign

For some reason, it's not consuming the gear when we use the teleport feature.  There aren't any errors or anything and it still requires us to hold the gear to teleport.  Any ideas?

any chance you could add some form of functionality like Nexrem's mod, NameTag tweaks? I wanna make it so myself and my admins have different username colors in game

Any chance for a way to disable server save notifications client-side? They're a bit distracting, if you don't have the general chat tab active.

Hey! is the "Hide name tag unless targeting" not working properly? Because the feature works sometimes and sometimes it won't.

Thanks for such a great mod!

PookieBunny

The channel order is a bit finnicky, but I can take a look! There was another recent feature request to persist the selected channel across rejoins, and also to prevent chat switching on new messages in different channel.  I've started to implement those, maybe that will help with your issue.

BASIC

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but is there any way to like... swap the general and prox channels? We like having the proximity as the default channel on our server, but having to do the global OOC to speak to everyone can be a bit tedious, so if instead the two channel pages were swapped (Prox in the general chat's place, and General in the prox chat's place) it would make things so much easier.

Ragolution

Gotcha, that should be an easy fix! Sorry for the delay, I have a long-running refactor branch with all of the requested features implemented (save for the newest one, which I'll add!)  I hope to get that out within a week.

So, after some testing it seems that, when using other languages, the text of player's messages is still in their native language in the bubble floating over their head, so if I typed in tradeband, it would be over my head in English.

We ended up disabling the "ShowNicknameInNametag" variable to remove the appended names so players stopped showing up as Ragolution (Ragolution). This ended up fixing the problem.

CAN Markets uses the player's names to assign ownership to stalls, so it was making it record the wrong name for the owner player. It would recognize them (on placement) as "Ragolution (Ragolution)" but on further interactions, they would be just "Ragolution". In any event, it seems to be fixed, so there's no need to do anything.

I posted a couple things to your github. Mostly feature requests, honestly. :')

Thank you for all your hard work on this mod, our players couldn't function without it.

Ragolution

I can look into it! I'm curious though, which mod are you using? Nicknames themselves don't really affect much.  There is a mod config option to disable nameplates, `ShowNicknameInNametag` (regenerate your mod config if you don't see it).  Otherwise though, Nicknames don't drive much other than chat messages.

Could there be a way to disable the nickname system? It's currently interfering with another mod we're using that records account names to determine a block's owner.

CHR3S

Whoops, I tore out that functionality at one point! I've removed it from the documentation, and filed a feature request.

Royal_X5

Thanks for the report, I've filed an issue to track this and will take a look sometime next week, thanks for your patience.

Nicknames seem buggy, can't set the range correctly and sometimes they always show regardless.

/pmessage doesn't seem to work

BASIC

I assume it has to do with one of the mods I installed. Since I can't use any basic commands. e.g.: /say or /yell

CHR3S

I can do some debugging tomorrow, but my initial guess is that you need to regenerate the mod config! I added a new config option `UseGeneralChannelAsProximityChat` that's being used on that line.

BASIC don't ever worry about being slow, go at your own pace and enjoy modding =D

I'm literally surprised this is not a built in module already, it's amazing!! A must have for multi!!

@Kara

It's difficult to remove general chat entirely as it's pretty much baked into the game's code, but I've released an update V5.0.1 with a config flag `UseGeneralChannelAsProximityChat` that will instead use General chat as the proximity chat.  I also added `EnableGlobalOOC` to go along with this, which enables using two parens in a message (ie. "((This is a Global OOC message))") for global OOC in the Prox chat channel.

I hope this meets your needs! Please let me know of any issues you find.

I've made a couple of other small fixes as part of this update, but there's still plenty of small bugs left to tackle.  Sorry I'm being so slow on this everybody, I appreciate you all very much 💜

Is there a way to disable General chat with this? =O

Update for V1.20 has been released! This is very much a WIP build, but I wanted to get it out ASAP for anybody who's waiting on it.  I'll be revisiting it soon with another update to polish it up!

When update??? 😳

Aw man, I was betting the highly esteemed BASIC would be the first one to update to 1.20.

Multiplayer just isn't the same without being able to passively agressively suggest everyone sleep.

BASIC

hallo o/ Any chance to implement AFK notification ( when player not moving or doing anything) ?

Nameplates would be a blessing! Bless you for still working on this mod.

Just here to respond to this poll. Yeah, nameplate changes would be awesome! I personally don't see any problem with switching the mod's Side either.
Thanks for working on this mod -- it's a must-have for me. :D

Hey Maamessu it's good to see you again too ~ I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see this mod continue to have life!

I'll dedicate some time to these feaures here soon and see what I can make happen!

Nice to see you again, BASIC. I've still been using the mod all these years and glad it was written so well as to keep functioning regardless of the game updates!

I think making the mod universal is fine. With autodownloading from the moddb, it's not much of a concern. Changing nameplates to show nicknames would be amazing IMO, as would the ability to tweak the range at which nameplates are shown (or maybe "a show when targetting" option like traders?) that's synced to the server.

Anyways, hope your doing well! XD

Hello all - Sorry that I've been gone for so long! I've been off working on other projects.

Quick responses to all the questions in my absense:
@McTaco You can access stats via the `/playerstats` command.  It takes an optional argument of another player's name to see their stats, but currently only works if that player is online.  I really should update the mod's description with the missing commands...
@Kaofan You *might* be able do it with the current build by setting the config to: `"<font color="#[hex code]">Server save has started - expect lag for a few seconds.</font>"`  I've created an issue on the github here to track this feature request.
@Guayo Yup, it still functions as expected! I am bad about keeping up with the supported game version tagging as new VS versions are released.
@Mohandar Although it would be neat, proximity voice is not on my radar right now.  It'd be really neat to implement something similar to TFAR in Arma 3 over Teamspeak...

Now, a general poll for the community~ I've gotten a lot of requests recently around changing nameplates to show nicknames, as well as fixing the issue with chat focus switching to General chat.  These changes would (probably) require switching this mod from server-side only to Universal (which means it'd now be listed as a mod clients have to download).  Does anybody have any concerns about such a change? Thanks!

Lastly, I wanted to mention that I welcome any collaboration if anybody wants to contribute to the mod.  Feel free to reach out on discord (basic_bit), leave a comment here, or just submit a PR on Github!

<3

How to use the stats?

BASIC

Is it possible to somehow change the color of the text displayed on the Server?

Example:

"TEXT_ServerSaveAnnouncement": "Server save has started - expect lag for a few seconds.",

"Color": "Cyan",

Is th is mod still functioning?

What about a voice proximity chat as well? <3

BASIC thanks for the reply and update. I am testing the mod on my server and for now so everything is okay! My community and I appreciates an active mod author like you that handles the issues.

Amarillo This was a known issue in v4.0.0-pre.2, and fixed in v4.0.0-pre.3, see issue here.  Sorry that you've experienced this though, it was a pretty eggregous issue!  The root cause was due to an API behavior change in the v1.18 VS lore update.

I've been busy with other things but I'll put the official v4 release out today (clone of pre.3), along with a subsequent v4.0.1 to fix a small issue relating to chat accents.

Discovered that when using this mod in 1.18.5 version creates a bug that makes creatures keep walking when killed and turning into bones when killed from range, It super weird but I tested removing this mod and revealed that was causing the issue

@BASIC Was hoping to speak with you regarding this mod! My Discord ID is Davis#3285 and I've sent you a message on there already. Awesome mod!

RogueRaiden Hello, I am BASIC's secretary! He has been notified of the problem. Thank you!

posted an issue

https://github.com/BASIC-BIT/Vintage-Story-Mods/issues/2

Hi! there is any way to disable the /nick command, I dont want the players to impersonate other players

Falco

Thanks for diagnosing this, and for submitting the issue! For now I'll just package the mod up into a dll- I've pushed a new version out that should do the trick.

cc: Catochondria WickedSchnitzel

Catochondria & WickedSchnitzel

It seems to be an issue with live compiling with the windows dedicated server. Try compiling the mod yourself and replace the src directory in the mod with the DLL file. This only needs to be done on the server side. Clients can keep using the mod with the src/ directory as long as the mod version is the same.

I created an issue for this bug here: https://github.com/anegostudios/VintageStory-Issues/issues/2378.

I hope we'll see an update or something like this. Unfortunately, and obviously, doesn't work with the current version. Same issue as below on 1.17.3

Server crash with

[Server Fatal] System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'VSSurvivalMod, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

File name: 'VSSurvivalMod, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'

   at thebasics.ModSystems.SleepNotifier.SleepNotifierSystem.b__0(IPlayer player)

   at System.Linq.Enumerable.WhereListIterator`1.MoveNext()

   at System.Linq.Enumerable.Count[TSource](IEnumerable`1 source)

   at thebasics.ModSystems.SleepNotifier.SleepNotifierSystem.GetSleepingCount() in Data\Cache\unpack\SERVER_thebasics_3.0.0-rc.2.zip_9e1dc03459e5\src\ModSystems\SleepNotifier\SleepNotifierSystem.cs:line 52

   at thebasics.ModSystems.SleepNotifier.SleepNotifierSystem.SlowServerTick(Single dt) in Data\Cache\unpack\SERVER_thebasics_3.0.0-rc.2.zip_9e1dc03459e5\src\ModSystems\SleepNotifier\SleepNotifierSystem.cs:line 28

   at Vintagestory.Common.EventManager.TriggerGameTick(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds, IWorldAccessor world)

   at Vintagestory.Server.CoreServerEventManager.TriggerGameTick(Int64 ellapsedMilliseconds, IWorldAccessor world)

   at Vintagestory.Server.ServerMain.Process()

WRN: Assembly binding logging is turned OFF.

To enable assembly bind failure logging, set the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog] (DWORD) to 1.

Note: There is some performance penalty associated with assembly bind failure logging.

To turn this feature off, remove the registry value [HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Fusion!EnableLog]. BASIC

I can take a look at both of those things!  Group order is based upon when you joined it, as far as I can tell.  There might be a way to change the ordering; a simple (yet crude) way would be to remove and re-add all of a player's groups when they join, to control the ordering.  I'll mess around with it and see what I can do.

As for "focus" mode, that's probably something that can only be fixed client-side.  I've been trying to keep this mod server-side-only so far, but I'll still do some investigating.

PS: thanks Keek :D

Fun mod. Love it. <3

Any way the proximity chat group could be placed directly next to the general chat group? For players with several chat groups, it would be easier to swap. Edit: I noticed with one of my players, their proximity group is before their chat groups while mine is not. lol Not sure if that means it depends on when the groups are created.

Could there be a command to prevent a chat window from "popping up" on new messages when ran within that chat window? So a player could ignore chat groups to only focus on proximity or a particular chat group.