MegaBroBuster

Branchy leaves delivered!

Vigilance

Ah, that looks like it's caused by the crafting grid recipe being set to "shapeless". It's fixed now. Thanks.

I believe on your end it was trying to craft the full block when I just put a single stack of 64 clay in the grid, as I was trying to make mortar, and it just detected quantity and went "Okay, that's a block." Unsure what all could go in to it because I frankly hate recipe patches and wish I could just overwrite everyone's with my own for more granularity lmao

Vigilance

That's good news! I feel pretty comfortable then that all the new materials I still want to introduce should fit in just fine without being a significant hit to the RAM.

As for the clay block recipe, I guess Quality of Building introduced a new mortar recipe that's just 9 pieces of raw clay in a grid? From a game design perspective I feel like that makes more logical sense as the clay block recipe. If they're trying to just let you use clay as mortar, then it would probably make the most sense for them to just adapt the vanilla recipes to use clay instead of mortar.

So far, I didn't notice any actually note-worthy RAM hit (like legitimately less than 400mb in my test world, which was in the margin of error for what I was expecting) from installing the mod in a vacuum, so I made the leap to start testing it out. So far I'm not a super-fan of at the very least the clay recipe, because it's blocking the new mortar-from-clay recipe from Quality of Building, which I'm also currently testing out. I actually had to triple check I wasn't insane and confirm who added what recipe for a minute haha, but that's a rant for another time. I actually had to circumvent the recipe by either crafting mortar two at a time, or using salty's radial crafting mod, which is approaching a few levels of mod stacking as a solution I wasn't hoping to see yet.

Vigilance

Thanks. Hopefully I can get it running well with solid compatibility. In general I feel like other mods should expect to accomodate new rock and wood types, since Tyron made it so easy and straightforward to add them, the game is basically inviting new content there. And there's a very clear and proper way to implement them with the world properties and wildcard system that other mods should probably anticipate. 

I can understand that philosophy. With toggles and whatnot it'd be fine for my use cases, but I've been bit and burned by the modded stone bug before since I started using Interesting Ore Gen, which doesn't particularly enjoy new rocks from GA for instance. I think that's a good pitch though, and if you're confident in it I am too. When I get some time later I'll go through and try to get a vague sense of RAM usage from this mod with some other usual-culprits, but I don't have a super scientific method for that currently outside of just loading everything up and comparing differences over a few launches.

Vigilance

People will think they don't want it in theory until they see them, then they'll suddenly want the new stone types. If it's added it will have to be done so in a way that can be activated or deactivated, or as a separate supplementary download, since it's not really possible to add on new stone types halfway through a world save, and it will be necessary to avoid compatability issues with mods that don't properly accommodate new stone types. So don't fret. This mod is about expanding missing or inaccessible materials and colors, and there are a few obvious hues of stone missing from the palette that vanilla started (one single shade of orange stone with no variation, for example, does not adequately reflect the average range of orange you would find on Earth, so I will probably add a couple), I'm currently just researching what their geological basis would be. At the moment I'm thinking 2-6 new stone types to round out the range of colors you can find, and if I implement them I will do so in a way that won't overlap with Geology Addons. 

If this mod adds in new worldgen stones (if that's what you mean) it'd basically instantly step out of the realm of usability for me compatibility-wise.

Nephelangelo Thanks for considering it, so allow me to explain my why: Because i wanna make a pergola. And vines do not adhere to normal leaves, only branchy ones. Thats all.

Have a great one m8 👍

MegaBroBuster

I had taken out the ability to collect branchy leaves because it didn't seem noticeably different from the normal leaves and they wound up just being an additional block that wouldn't stack in your inventory. But I will think about adding it back in.

Vigilance

Yeah I'm curious to know how much RAM it's eating into currently. I am considering adding in a few new full sets of sedimentary stone, along with all variants that come with them, which will likely add a decent bit to the RAM usage. But I personally use very few mods so I haven't really noticed any performance difference yet. Hopefully I can squeeze in a few new material sets without any issue.

R0D96

Looking at my notes, Russet Daub should be made with Andesite Gravel and Fire Clay.

Can i please request the ability to also gather branchy leaves? As of now, you can only gather normal plain leaf blocks

The big issue and problem with performance isn't really when the blocks are used in the world, as far as I've been concerned, but the overall ram hit to having dozens and dozens and dozens of extra blocks/etc loaded in your texture atlas and otherwise. It's what makes stuff like Wildcraft or ACA/Extended foods balloon ram usage of the client up to 20+GB sometimes, and it's really kind of exponential at times. It gets nasty for stuff like this 'cause once it is in your world, it gets really cumbersome to remove, or if you've grown used to some of it... Well. :)

I'll probably fix up a test environment and try to get some cool numbers figured out, but I am so heavily drawn in by more flavors of rammed earth- my absolute favorite block- that it will probably blind me some! I am a little worried about the extra recipes and whatnot, as I'll have a ton of extra redundancy from this mod that I really didn't need/want, but all good things at a cost haha

the recipe for russet daub doesn't seem to be working, Im using red clay with the andesite gravel and getting nothing

Awesome, thanks a bunch <3

Check me, but there is a compatibility issue with Better Ruins. I had a much earlier versions of your mod which generated errors. Finally got around to investigating so updated all mods including MaterialNeeds to 1.1.4 and Better Ruins to 0.5.3. Generated a new world and errors persist. Disabling either Better Ruins or MaterialNeeds, no more errors. Enabling both, errors resume.

server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:slantedroofing-lightaged-east-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:beam-ridge-lightaged-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:beam-plane-lightaged-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-road/road1.json': Output Block code game:woodenpath-lightaged-ns cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:wood raft': Output Item code game:boat-raft-darkaged cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:10 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-shipwright/shipwright1.json': Output Item code game:boatseat-lightaged cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:slantedroofing-lightaged-east-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:beam-ridge-lightaged-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-roofing/roofing1.json': Output Block code game:beam-plane-lightaged-free cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-road/road1.json': Output Block code game:woodenpath-lightaged-ns cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:wood raft': Output Item code game:boat-raft-darkaged cannot be resolved
server-main.log:17.11.2025 18:12:20 [Error] Grid Recipe 'betterruins:recipes/grid/schematic-shipwright/shipwright1.json': Output Item code game:boatseat-lightaged cannot be resolved

Nephelangelo, got it - thank you so much!

Introdile

You can simply delete the "leaves-block-drop" json under "assets/materialneeds/patches/leaves". 

Shadowise

The flowers have the same spawning conditions as their vanilla counterparts, but at different levels of rarity. The front two rows of flowers in the screenshot will spawn at 1/400th the frequency of the vanilla flowers, the next row back spawn at 1/40th and the last two rows spawn at 1/4th the frequency. The only exception is Lily of the Valley (Lavender) in the front center right, which will spawn 1/4,000th as frequently as vanilla Lily of the Valley. Have fun hunting!

Vigilance

I would love to see someone check it. In my test world I have all the hundreds of new blocks placed in the same location and don't notice any performance difference, though I don't use many other mods personally. 

Would it be possible to add a way to turn off leaf block gathering? At least until the interaction between this mod and xskills is fixed.

Nephelangelo, are the 28 added flowers spawning in random environments, or are you attempting to match the species to somewhat realistic conditions (in terms of where they like to grow in the real world - latitude, elevation, dry/wet climes, temperature)? Thank you!

Has anyone benchmarked this much at all? I love the premise but am also woefully aware of how insanely fast these mods stack up. I would like to know how close to the "unplayable" threshold for RAM I'd be looking at.

Are the added flower variants compatible with Wild Farming feature that let us extract flower seeds out of flowers?

Hydromancerx

I'm leaving for a trip tomorrow, so I will not have time for the next couple weeks, but the More Lanterns author may be able to rework compatibility from their end.

Can you add compataiblity with More Lanterns? Both add Cyan and Brown dyes

seaseraphic

Had it loaded up today with Alchemy just to test and got no errors. Looks like the flowers just aren't utilized by their mod's recipes, but they could certainly add them in if they wanted.

The new flowers are very pretty, though im curious how they might compat with Alchemy? since each potion requires one specific flower 

Netch

Thank you! Expanded Foods should no longer have issues since I reworked the vinegar recipe. As for the Aged Wood additions, I believe you can simply delete a few files to eliminate the custom wood set that has caused some compatibility issues. If those mods ever fix their compatibility you can then just restore the original mod with no issue. I may rearrange these to be easier to remove in the future, but try this:

Hi there! LOVING the added colorful blocks and flowers!! Honestly the whole mod is A+, but I'm putting together a modpack for a small friends server however, and the list already includes Expanded Foods (vinegar) and Better Ruins (recipes for aged blocks and beams) My first question is: if I can figure out how to remove those recipes, is that something you'd be okay with? I wouldn't publish it. Second question is: if you're comfortable, would you be able to provide advice/assistance on how to do so? Thanks a bunch <333

Nephelangelo

I am. Hmm, Good to know that its just a mod interaction, I was starting to get so confused

Onesilverkey

Sounds like you're probably using XSkills, which has this peculiar effect.

Slikkelas

Gotcha. Thanks for looking into it.

Currently the ability to get leaf blocks is expanded to "if you have anything in your hands" instead of just a saw in survival. The tool tips indicate saw but I was also able to get them with a stick.

Edit: Looking into it further i learned that the old legacy files like the planks uses -we and they changed it later on to -ew for new stuff. But they can't change it in the old stuff, since it would brick old save files people have been playing from way back.

Nephelangelo I found that in mn-agedplanks.json it says "*-lightaged-we" and i think it should be "*-lightaged-ew".

I could be wrong, but just wanted to mention it.

DJRelax

Thanks, I reached out to them.

@Nephelangelo

If anything, the developer of the Vintage Engineering mod has a discussion thread about this error. Link

DJRelax

Please share the error and I'll look into it.

Hello!
Thank you for your mod.
However, I'd like to point out that your mod causes a critical error when used with the mod Vintage Engineering
Is there a way to fix this, as I really want to play with both mods?
Thank you very much!!!

I'm sorry, I saw that it had already been written about.

LostnoFrost

I'm looking at 1.0.8 and Green Daub currently uses Chestnut as its base as far as I can tell, while Sage uses Golden Brown.

I'll look into reworking the output numbers.

I return once again with more Daub related reports. The new recipes all make 12 pieces of Raw Daub, but vanilla changed these recipes to make 8 per craft, and to spend 6-8 per block instead of 10-12.

While I'm here, Golden Brown Daub + Green Dye recipes still have a conflict, being a recipe for Green and Sage Daub.

crash1555
qwacky

I must have messed up the recipe, I'll get it fixed in the next update. Thanks for letting me know!

*EDIT*

Just checked them now and they should be working fine. It's confusing because the Handbook cycles the recipe ingredients too fast and the ingredients becomes out of sync if you hover your mouse over them, but you basically have to keep dyeing a Brown plaster with a White dye until you get the lighter shade you want. You can also do the reverse, dye any of the lighter Brown plasters with Grey dye, or the more saturated Brown dye, until you get the darker Brown you want. Maybe I'll introduce some Light Brown and Dark Brown dyes to help with this.

It seems there is no crafting recipes for the lighter color plasters, or moreso the handbook doesn't make sense on how to craft them, which means that any of the Tan / Light brown colored plasters are currently uncraftable? 

Tan, Taupe, Light brown ETC 

on 1.21.5 o/ thanks

Is Tan plaster impossible to craft or am i crazy?

LostnoFrost

Thank you for the heads up! I must have forgotten to update the dye and daub adjustments I had worked out. These are now fixed for the next update.

bipsy

Thanks for letting me know. I think I will need to rework the new Aged Wood blocks to work as full new sets rather than trying to patch the existing Very Aged set into two different sets. Will mean in the next update you'll have to replace any of the new lighter Aged Wood materials I introduced if you crafted them, but otherwise shouldn't effect your game at all.

EDIT: I take it back, it looks like the blocks and materials don't have to be replaced with this patch change, they will automatically accept the patch switch when I introduce it.

Interesting batch of recipe conflicts I found:
Cobalt and Blue Daub share a recipe, Golden Brown Daub + Blue Dye in a barrel.

Coral and Orange have a similar conflict with Golden Brown Daub, as do Green, Chartreuse and Sage

I'm experiencing the same issue @Willownezz mentioned with those mods.

Additionally, Vintage Engineering combined with this mod seems to make the game crash when you open anything in the handbook with shift+H.

great work so far. looking forward to seeing this mod develop further.

i love u

purple8cloud

Ask and ye shall receive. Added barrel dye recipes for all the Wattle & Daub blocks. 👍

Euthanasia

I messaged them on their Discord thread but was told they mainly post on the ModDB so it looks like I will need to contact them here.

Willownezz

Will look into these. Looks like they're mainly trying to create new variants using my blocks, which means they could potentially create new blocks with my textures, or I may have to patch it another way to avoid other people's mods conflicting with it.

Some mods like 'Culinary Artillery', 'Alchemy', 'Axelinblocks', 'Snowshoes', and 'Better Ruins' seem to have some issue with the Light Aged wood types.

@froggee @Nephelangelo

I am getting the same thing. A crazy amount of leaves to drom when cutting a tree down.

I have xskill and MN

I have not found a fix or the reason for that matter. But I am looking in to it.
if I find a solution Ill post what I know.

function to change already placed wattle and daub's color?

froggee

I looked through their leaves patch and didn't see anything that I would expect to conflict with MN. Maybe there's a conflict coded deeper into their DLL, I'm not sure. 

After some testing, I've found out that my getting leaf drops has something to do with the XSkills mod being paired with this mod. It doesn't happen with only Material Needs or XSkills on their own, just when the two mods are paired together.

froggee

Just tested it and I'm not getting any leaf block drops from 1.0.2 with an axe. Tried going back and forth between the saw and the axe to produce a probelm and could not produce an issue. Seems to be working properly as far as I can tell. 

I made sure that I'm on 1.0.2 by reinstalling 1.0.2, and I'm still able to pick up leaves without a saw. Specifically, I'm able to break and pick up leaves without using any tools. Sorry I wasn't more specific in my original comment.

seaseraphic
froggee

It sounds like you're on an older version. Go ahead and upgrade to 1.0.2, axe dropping leaf blocks should be removed. Should now be limited to the saw.

Came here to report the same issue as froggee below. Cutting trees with an axe will drop leaf blocks, which isnt ideal as they clog inventory.

I just started a survival world and started to get leaf block drops without using a saw, is this a known issue perhaps? I'm using quite a few mods, so it might have something to do with that.

Nephelangelo OOOOOO, I see what you mean.  It's just adding the ability to create aged wood using vinegar recipes, I got you.  I had thought that you had created actual aged variants of the different wood types, like aged pine, aged walnut, aged ebony, etc.  My bad

sheesh1991

Just checked it and the Aged Wood variants should be showing up in the recipes. They are barrel dye recipes, at the bottom.

Should be adding some more Aged Wood stuff soon.

SalMetagamer

Thank you! I can look into a Wooden Shingle block, will add it to my notes.

Am I stupid?  I can't find the aged wood types in the blocks and items handbook.  What are keywords can I use to search for them?

Really liking this mod so far, more colors are always a great thing. As a suggestion, chould be maybe get a "wooden shingle" block? The clay shingles have a full roof set as well as a solid, chisable block with the shingle texture, but the wooden roofs dont have a matching block with the wooden shingle texture that we can chisel. Thought I would mention it as you seem to be planning to add some more wooden blocks for aged wood and it would be a great addition to a mod like this, great work as always!

Nyxara

Hi there, I can try to rework the vinegar recipes for compatibility, could you try to find out which Wildcraft recipes in particular this conflicts with and which Material Needs vinegar recipes do not have any conflicts? Reaching out to the Wildcraft creator to try to coordinate compatibility.

I think there may be an incompatibility with wildcraft:fruit and nuts and the vinegar recipe. Wildcraft changes the aged wine recipe and when I tried to get aged wine it all turned into cleaning vinegar instead.

Nephelangelo Oh snap!  Sweeeet!  I'll take a look whenever I can today!

ShaeTsu

For this reason the mod doesn't allow collecting branchy leaves. If normal leaves cause an issue I'll probably nerf it somehow.

Just an FYI allowing players to harvest placeable leaf blocks effecitively allows them to generate infinite tree seeds because the game doesn't diffirentiate between natural leaves and player placed ones. Not that tree seeds are a balance point worth being concerned with, but still.

artemax44

Lol, that's definitely not intended. Will look into fixing that soon. For now just try to use them in the default orientation. 

And thank you!

Nephelangelo

The mod is incredible. What I don't like is that when I place a block of plaster of a certain color and try to rotate it with the wrench, it changes shape and color. 
I don't see the point in this, since it takes away from the appeal of making dyes in the barrel. I hope you can fix this.

LETS GO NEW UPDATE

sheesh1991

Aged Wood recipes added! Will likely do some variants at some point just to round out the set. Probably won't touch anything regarding ruins to ensure that the mod remains compatible with other mods, but other mods will be able to use my resources if they want to update the ruins with my blocks.

JupiterAugust

New Plaster and Wattle & Daub all chiselable!

Yes please on the aged wood variants!  Really hope that covers all the log types as well!  Would you be able to include the aged wood variants in the generation table for ruins?

yes yes yesss lets gooooo more decorationsssss

are they all chiselable? 🤔

ShaeTsu

Thinking about doing color glass, though I might limit that to a smaller range of colors. Will probably also round out the Aged Wood set and give them all recipes.

Nephelangelo That's unfortunate, hopefully that limitation can be overcome some day. Plaster, glass, and leather blocks are all something that can benefit greatly from coming in all of these colors, but that's getting pretty high up there in block count.

ShaeTsu

I looked into it, unfortunately using the Attribute Rendering Library would make chiseling with these blocks impossible due to how vanilla currently works.

AstaZora

Thank you! I'm currently working on plaster textures, matching their colors and trying to make it work within the vanilla style.

And sure that would be cool, just please make sure to credit me for anything you use!

If you plan to expand this to more blocks like plaster that will also introduce a lot of variety, I recommend looking into using attribute rendering library. Mods that add a lot of blocks without using it tend to devour RAM like it's candy. 

I would absolutely love to use these for making other new blocks in the game for a wip mod. Please let me know if I can use/sample this pallete for rocks and other materials! it's absolutely beautiful and really fixes the rainbow pallete problem I've been having. 

Also, mad respect for paying homage to the game's very different muted color pallete (there really aren't a lot of popping vibrant blocks, and it's very pleasant for the eyes, but has it's own challenges)

Definitely adding this to my next survival world. Can't wait!

Yukari_75
MASIOSARE
Enoch
m00n
Ryilo
eerino

Thanks everyone! I decided to use gravel instead of sand so as not to interfere with the standard daub recipes, which is still consistent with real world wattle and daub creation. Each daub variety now also has a barrel dyeing recipe as well. Everything should be up and running now for Survival!

I'd suggest letting people use dye to color daub

May you can use some fruit juice to make the recipe in survival.

Using the fruit press and berry or fruits like apple it can be possible to do the blocks.

Oh these are beautiful. Very excited. I second the dyes idea too, or even combining colors of the daub in the grid to get other colors ex: red and yellow to make orange, but there's such a range that might get a lil complex. 

this looks awesome! :D

Nephelangelo : For the survival recipes I think it would be better to keep things as simple as possible, like in vanilla. So, one step to make the color, one step to dye the raw daub.

To create the missing colors you could make a "dye paste" for every needed color. When the "dye paste" is mixed with water, we obtain the new color, as in vanilla.

The "dye paste" could be made with some plants that are currently unused for making dye, and by mixing (just put them both in the crafting grid) two different plants. Some plants are found on warm climates only, so care must be taken to have all the possible combinations regardless of climate zone (ie. being forced to go south to harvest papyrus would be a no-no).

very pretty! Can't wait to see what people make with it :)